Which Do You Prefer; ENF or EUF? (POLL)
 

In general, which do you prefer? EUF...

...or ENF?

EUF...

ENF...

EUF...

ENF...

I voted EUF
 

Not sure if explanations are allowed. I'll give mine (and include some pictures).

I prefer EUF for a couple reasons. First, it was what I found when I first discovered the genre. On YouTube most content was EUF.

Second, a lot of the time it just feels more "real". My favorite examples in the ENF/EUF genre usually are EUF ones. Personally, a lot enf content is heavily censored. With EUF, you see more of the scenario. With forums like this I've found a lot of great ENF scenes, but the EUF bias is still there.

One example that's in my head is the citroen EUF ad (pics below). One of the best ENF/EUF scenes for me. Getting your dress ripped off in public and getting laughed at by others is hard to beat.

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I will say EUF over all. I like a Pretty and Partially Unwrapped Package!

EUF...

ENF...

I voted for EUF. I think for me, the fact that we can still see the underwear despite the woman's attempts at covering up is what makes it more enjoyable and more hot to see. When they're naked, as much as I also love that, they can have everything covered if they place their hands in the right way (from one side, at least). But when they're in their underwear, there's always going to be something peeking out and exposed. Especially if they're wearing something like a slip or a camisole, or even just a bigger bra and bigger panties. And then watching their hands move around in a futile attempt to cover everything. It's impossible, and I feel like because they know it's impossible, the embarrassment is like amplified a bit as a result. I just love it :D

I like both but picked ENF. But if you are discussing ENF/EUFs in movies, it really depends on the actress. Ones who appear to be actually embarrassed are more interesting regardless of whether ENF or EUF

ENF with everything covered. The embarrassment is genuine, there's always the chance of a slip, and there's complete vulnerability.

EUF...

ENF...

EUF...

...or ENF?

EUF...

...or ENF?

EUF
 

Voted EUF. Which was easy, since for me this isn't even close to being a tough choice.

As a straight man I do love a woman's body on her birthday suit... but when it comes to my humiliation fetish underwear will always take it. My particular quirk is that I especially love EUF when the only item of clothing lost is the skirt or pants, with the top remaining fully clothed (yes, I'm an ass-man). I find EUF scenarios to be more realistic than ENF. A woman ending up completely naked in public may very well spark mockery, but many bystanders would likely be compelled to help her out of compassion; being unwillingly naked in front of a fully dressed crowd is extremely humiliating, and I guess most people would relate to that. On the other hand, a woman who loses her skirt but retains her panties is much easier to laugh at, since her bum and funny bits are still covered. No compassion for the skirtless gal enduring a more bearable, albeit still highly uncomfortable level of public humiliation!

Nancy Allen (who used to be a pretty big star in the 1980s) said something very similar to that. Here's the article where she discusses the level of embarrassment between a nude scene, and an underwear scene.

ENF for me
 

While EUF is far more commonly avaliable, ENF, in my opinion is far more exciting. I could take it one stage further and say I like it even more when the lady in question is also shaved.

This is rare, but it happens on occasion (For example, Cercei Lannister in the book version of 'Game of Thrones' is not only stripped of her clothing, but her vagina is shaved as well. This particular fantasy crops up in a lot of ENF fiction as well. The victim either having recently shaved and regretting it or being shaved by some circumstance of her situation).

I suppose the level of nudity and exposure is one of the important aspects for me. EUF just doesn't bring the thunder the same as full nudity (though I can respect it as its' own thing). Like any sexual fetish there's no right or wrong answer. It's always going to be down to personal preference rather than one choice being the correct one above all other :)

EUF
 

EUF is my preference. It's sexy, but can at the same time also be innocent. EUF is at the core of LSS, and EUF can also be pre-watershed. It's erotic but film-makers and TV stations consider it acceptable family viewing. Jane is a great combination of EUF and LSS, but innocent. There's also an innocent sexiness in the Magnet Kitchens advert and Ronnie Barker's Sekonda advert. The George at Asda 15% Off advert from 2000 which includes a young lady being instantly reduced from a blouse and skirt to black bra and panties does have young children in it. Sabrina the Teenage Witch gets magically stripped down to her slip and let's not forget that was a kid's show. No, EUF is actually quite wholesome.

EUF...

...or ENF?

For me, it's definitely EUF. It's what I first associated with sexuality, probably because women's underwear was considered private and seeing it was scandalous (I honestly hated it about a decade ago when it was considered socially acceptable for a few years for a woman to wear a tank top or spaghetti top with her bra straps showing like it was no big deal :p). I like the humiliation factor of a woman being reduced to her unmentionables and the shame associated with it, along with the feeling of being vulnerable in her undies and the sexual precariousness that comes with it.

ENF is also fun, but I prefer when EUF is the lead up.

There's also the very personal nature of underwear. Unlike men, women put a good deal of effort into selecting what they wear under their clothes. The style, color and fabric of her underwear can tell you a lot about a woman's personality.

I voted ENF, but with qualifications. "It's complicated." The really important factors are the E and the F for me; N and U are "negotiable." EUF scenes can be absolutely marvelous, and I would far prefer a really well done EUF scene than a badly (by my standards) done ENF scene. Also, I am generally not a fan of "instant ENF," e.g. instantly going from fully dressed to fully nude, even with embarrassment. I find that lacks the sizzle of tease and anticipation. My favorite is EUF that eventually transitions to ENF. If I had to choose between "instant ENF" with no EUF element at all and just EUF, I'd go with just EUF. But ENF is the icing on the EUF cake for me!

I agree that EUF works better when it transitions to ENF. In certain situations EUF can work by itself but I feel like it’s not as revealing or as embarrassing as it was in the past. Watching a movie from the 40’s 50’s or 60’s when standards were a bit more conservative and seeing a woman exposed in her underwear and it looks more embarrassing but today I feel like it doesn’t quite have the same impact.

That being said I do like a good compromise between ENF and EUF where a woman is either left topless but still wearing her underwear or bottomless but still wearing her bra because if anything it only helps highlight just how exposed she is.

I tend to agree. As I stated in my above post, I remember back in the mid-00s when it was perfectly fashionable for a woman to wear a tank top and not make any attempt to cover her bra straps. I wasn't a fan. :p Part of the appeal of underwear is the private nature of them and what makes good EUF is the shame of being exposed in them. When there isn't that taboo, it loses impact. But that impact is clear in older movies. A woman getting stripped to her unmentionables wasn't just about cheap T&A. There was clearly a shame aspect to it that ran the gamut from simply embarrassed to downright humiliation, the latter often in exploitation and b-movies. The only mainstream films in the past 10 years I can think of that really hit on that level are the cargo hold scene in Iron Sky and the dress cutting scene in the Harley Quinn movie, the former being more toward the embarrassed side and the latter being more toward the humiliation side.

And also, whenever there is a stripping scene in contemporary media, the woman is often wearing "sexy" or "flirty" underwear. In other words, something that is meant to be seen. I'm a bigger fan of more demure lingerie choices and I think the 60s and the 80s were the two golden eras of women's undies (at least from a straight guy's perspective!). I favor stuff like 18-Hour bras and French cut briefs. It's why the secretary scene from Nutty Professor II is classic. She's not wearing some super low-plunge, sheer-cup, stripper wardrobe bra from the sexy lingerie store. She's wearing a basic white bra with some feminine detailing you'd find in the lingerie department at JCPenney.

I think a lot of Japanese films, particularly JAVs, still focus on showing underwear being super taboo, so I've started paying a lot more to them over Western fair. But I'll still search and mine older films for those gems!

TL, DR: Cultural and fashion progress is undermining my fetishy interests! :p

The thing is, women aren't embarrassed to show their underwear anymore. Thanks to the internet, anything goes. I mean, there are actually two days each year on which people ride the trains, and walk around in public without their pants!

I haven't seen the Harley Quinn movie. What happens in the dress cutting scene, and who's dress is cut off?

Bojana Novakovic is the name of the actress. In essence, she's hanging out at the main bad guy's nightclub and in a cruel show of power, the big bad makes one of the guy's in Novakovic's party cut off her dress in public. Undie glory ensues. The scene definitely leans more toward the humiliation side rather than the embarrassment side, so those who really don't get into the former probably wouldn't dig it as much. It really has more of the vibe you'd see from a 70s or 80s exploitation movie.

Found some caps from that Birds of Prey scene. Do we see her panties, or just her bra?

The top for a split second and a little bit of the back. It's not a great panty scene.

Here's a link to it on YouTube: hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiwRriVkZh4

I like both, but EUF has the edge for me... since it and the general panty/legs fetish for me all originate from the legendary scene in Poltergeist featuring Jo Beth Williams with just that t-shirt and panties, getting rolled up a wall...the view of her incredible legs and panties...her reaction as she keeps frantically trying to cover....it is perfection. That scene would blow me up sooo many times over the years. haha she probably inspired that particular fetish for a lot of us out there, thanks to that 1 scene.

*note---best of both worlds, imo... is when it's EUF... but the underwear in question is also see-thru! It's giving us both visuals at the same time there...

So many people cite that Poltergeist scene as the reason they have a panty fetish (it was originally going to be a full frontal nude scene).

Honestly, I prefer ETF (embarrassed topless female), where a woman has her breasts or bra exposed, and then has to make a makeshift handbra with her hands. See Julia Schultz in Nutty Professor II: The Klumps (2000) as a good example of this:
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I only wish there were more scenes in mainstream movies and TV shows similar to the one I've linked to above. Does anyone else have any additional ETF/handbra scenes they could let me know about?

For pure topless ENF, it's hard to beat this Lauren Cohan scene from The Walking Dead.