Babysitting Without a Net
 

Hi there,

Perhaps some of you might have heard already, but for those who haven't, I hope it is OK to post a message about my first independent film that I produced, entitled, "Babysitting Without a Net". For more information you can check out the film website at:

http://www.babysittingwonet.com

The film was inspired by the tales of Ann the Hapless Babysitter, written by JailBait, and posted at Indian Outlaw's forum some years ago. The story is funny, erotic, and a celebration of female beauty.

Oh, and as a fan of ENF, there are plenty of such scenes throughout the picture. I would like to invite everyone to view the trailer at the website. And I am also attaching some enf screen shots from the DVD.

I would be happy to discuss the film here at this forum, or through direct e-mail.

Thanks,

Joe Flanagan
Writer/Producer
Narrow-minded Productions, LLC

Looks good. There is not much detail about the actual DVD on your site. How long is the movie?

Dvd
 

Hey Shan,

The DVD is 40 minutes. I consider it like a typical televsion drama (such as Law&Order, etc...) but without the commercials :)

Anyway, I hope you at least enjoyed the trailer clip and those frames I grabbed from the DVD!

Thanks,

Joe

Good deal. I just ordered it. Thanks!

Actually, I did have a couple questions:

- How did you find Monica Himmelheber? I think it is great that your actresses are all actually actresses. That is definitely one of the main selling points of the movie.

- How did you sell the role to her? Was it hard to convince her?

- I've always wanted to ask this one: What was it like working with an actress who had to be naked for most of the movie, i.e. what was it like for her and what was it like for you?

- Have you made any other films and will you make any more ENF films in the future? Believe me, there is a huge market for them...

Thanks, and I will be ordering soon.

Fango

Hey Fango,

Thanks for your post! We actually held auditions back in March for all three parts. As you can imagine, we saw over 50 young ladies for the parts of AMY and LOUISE, but only a dozen were brave enough to try out for the more demanding part of LAURA_ANN. Yes, Monica is truly a gem, and we were fortunate when she replied to our casting notice and read the script. It helps that she used to be an art class model. But her acting skills were just beyond our wildest dreams. I think the playfulness and light-hearted yet intelligently written screen-play is waht sold it to her.

On set, Monica was always treated professionally and with the upmost respect. There was always a robe ready for her when the camera was not rolling. Although I have to tell you, there was an absolute hush over the crew during the filming of her "dusting/cleaning" scene. She is also very down to earth and a joy to work with. Not a Diva at all, and she really had a good time with the whole thing.

This is in fact my first independent film project. My intention is to make more high-quality films that are inspired by other "Stripping Naked" stories, and thus will most certainly contain themes of ENF. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that things go well with this first effort.

Thanks,

Joe

This movie looks fantastic! I'm so glad to see someone making films for our type of audience. I hope you have a long and prolific career :D . Also, any chance of there ever being a download version for sale?

Looks great!!

Do you ship to Europe? Or even better is it available for downloading? I mean buying it of course. :)

Let me make sure I understand this correctly (because I'm thickheaded and slow on the uptake, so bear with me)...

You produced a TV-episode length straight-to-DVD movie based on concepts previously explored in amateur/semi-professional internet porn literature? Have I got this right?

If I do, I have about half a billion questions for you that unfortunately all of the readers of this board would find excruciatingly boring because they don't relate to sex, nudity, voyeurism or ENF, but I'm dying to ask. Any way I can get my questions to you?

BTW, bravo for embarking on this project. Actually making a video entry in this genre takes balls :D

Answers to Questions
 

Hey guys,

OK, lots to cover, so I'll get right to the point. I have no immediate plans to make the film available for download on the website. I am very proud of the finished look fo the film, which was a Hi-Definition conform and color correction. This will play best on a television or ultimately on a theatre screen (when we get into film festivals). Even the DVD quality if you play it on your computer will be better than a streaming download. So right now, the only distribution is on DVD.

Yes, I have shipped to Europe (so far, orders from the UK, Germany, and Sweden!) as well as Australia and Canada for that matter. There is no extra charge for Global Priority mail. All I need to know is if you can play an NTSC Region 1 DVD, or if I need to convert to a PAL format. So far, all of my overseas customers have had no problem playing the DVD.

Gorgon, I would be happy to answer your questions via e-mail. There is a contact form on the film website, but my address is: helmhood@earthlink.net

I'm not sure if I would characterize this project the way you did (no offense, and none taken here) I just think it is a little more special :) In other words, besides the current DVD distrubution, we are submitting to national and international film festivals. Its very Artistic and the cinematography alone is amazing. It's kind of like a throw-back to those European erotic comedies... maybe we'll be lucky enough to show at Cannes!

Thanks to everyone for your responses!

Joe

Simply fantastic!
 

Thanks Joe! Great topic, great clips. Looks well worth the money, so I just ordered it.

Thanks again!!

Can we get a review?
 

Will the first person to see this film post a review? No offense to the auteur, it looks like an awesome movie. I if were a rich girl I'd buy it right now, but I'm kinda poor. I'd like to know exactly what I'm getting into.

Congradualations, and I do hope you have great success. Erotica epidimizes our love for youth and joy, and to be able to use this as an artform. I think props go out to you. I do some investing in production companies in Canada and although it's a tough market right now with all the pirating going on, i do see you as having a niche and hopefully you will be able to produce films like [Vénus et Fleur} and have them at film festivals. I do some writting and have many ideas myself of storyline and possible movies. I will post a movie I made while in Australia in the movie section. Tell me if this would make a good movie.

I have been waiting for this movie to come out since I heard you were making it Helm. Looks great, and the actresses are all just perfect for their respective roles. Hope you get into Cannes....................

Here's a short "review" I had posted on a different forum:

I ordered and watched the movie. It's very ENF-specific and I loved the heck out of it. I recommend it very highly.

The lead actress is beautiful. There was plenty of nudity, and she was very good at acting embarrassed. If anything, the scenery and production were a bit *too* well done for my tastes. I'd have been happy if they'd settled for less quality and made it twice as long! No real problem for me: I made up for it by watching the film several times. I'll probably watch it many more times in the future - and I am not the sort of person who usually re-watches anything.

The "girls" chase their teacher and strip her down several times in an aggressive but non-violent manner - more cajoling than forcing her. They verbally tease her, keep her naked for a while, and they even make her cook and clean house in the nude. There is one scene near the beginning where Ann is dusting in the nude and picking up after the girls, while vainly trying to keep herself covered, that I personally thought was worth the price of the movie all by itself.

Seriously, that housecleaning scene is awesome. There's plenty of stripping in Babysitting, but my personal favorite is KEEPING the heroine naked and on edge. I'd be happy if somebody could just make a movie of that kind of situation with only a brief stripping setup.

At the risk of giving away too much of the story, there is also an extended nudity scene at the end. The situation (waiting for the girls to return her clothes as the clock ticks down toward the beginning of Ann's first class) is terrific. Personally, I thought that scene focused a bit too much on Ann's arousal - I would rather the embarrassment were the focus, and the arousal in the background. But I would imagine a lot of people may prefer to see the kind of culmanation the movie (and Ann) reached.

The only downside I really saw was that I thought the middle part lagged a bit. The producer said the plan was to film it outdoors, but the weather turned. I think it might have been a lot more fun as an outdoor scene (and I wanted to see a good "run-and-hide" scenario.) Unfortunately, unless an ENF movie ends up selling a million copies or so, an unlimited budget and schedule may be too much to ask. In the meantime, this movie should exceed all ENF fans' expectations.

I'm as skittish as anyone about shelling out money on the Internet, but I have only one piece of advice for anyone who has seen the trailer and thinks there's any chance this movie might potentially meet your interest: shut the Hell up and buy it! If you've ever spent money on any ENF site, film, book, or anything, Babysitting beats it hands down. It doesn't get any better than this. I defy anyone to watch this movie and then name a better one.

And even if you're just a cheapskate, remember, your money is going to a good cause: encouraging more movies like this one.

reviews
 

Hey Kopema,

What a great review! Looks like I'll be making that Jenny film :)

Seriously, I like to hear what people liked about the film, and even what they didn't like. This way I'll know what to do different for my next project.

Arwen... I have other reviews I could post here, but I figure you'd rather get it from people directly. Just let me know if you need more feedback.

lcruizer... did you post that Australia movie yet? I would love to check it out. By the way, our very gifted Director of Photography, Jordan Valenti, is originally from Australia... so we love the Land Down Under!

Thank you to all who have placed orders, I am looking forward to you seeing the film.

Joe

Hi Helmhood, I did post it in the sexy videos section of the forum, easy to find under heading my movie occ exclusive. A la coyote Ug contest.

Jenny... Jenny... Jenny...
 

I am a personal fan of the Jenny genre.

Contradictory to what Kopema said, I PREFER the slow stripping scenes - where women lose their clothes and are embarrassed about it, especially when they can't cover up (such as Jenny and the Elevator, my favorite). I could watch a whole movie of just that and be happy. Too many movies these days have the women all to happy to strip and be naked...

If you make a Jenny-type movie, I'll be sure to order it.

Some of us who are in "long-term commitments" and would prefer that our significant other NOT see what we're getting, a downloadable alternative might be considered...? I have high-speed internet - downloading a 700MB - 1400MB movie would be OK with me!

It is possible to set up a Bittorrent server that restricts via IP and/or Username/Pass. That would cut down on the bandwidth considerably and allow for a DVD ISO (image file) download or even a ultra-high quality AVI file to be hosted without the bandwidth going out of control.

But still, I would have huge reservations about putting up your product online like that -- it's just begging for piracy.

Another Review
 

I have a review at my site as well, click the link below. Well worth the price.

Though honestly, someone can put it online as soon as they have the dvd anyway, so it's not like he can stop it from happening.

Please feel free to discuss this movie. However, Helmhood / Joe already stated that he doesn't want a lesser quality (or worse yet) pirated version, distributed on the net.

So far, I've only heard good things about this project. If you want to see it, order the DVD. :)

Thanks,

thanks
 

Alex,

Thanks for looking out for the interests of my production.

Folks, let's remember that we are all on the same side here. I sarted out as a big ENF/Stripping Naked fan, and remain so. I just took my interest a little further, and set out to make the kind of film I myself would want to see. Something with a real storyline, entertaining situations of female nudity, and based on a beloved character from the ASN storyboards. As far as I can tell, there is nothing else like this on the market.

It is my hope that if things go well with "Babysitting..." I will produce more films that would feature other characters such as Jenny, and of course, include scenes of ENF.

Show_man 8... I suppose being single, I can't speak with much authority, but I do think this is the kind of film you might be able to watch with your wife. It is erotic for sure, but definitely not porno (in my opinion!). In fact, both my web designer and Indian Outlaw himself enjoyed viewing it with their spouses, who even got a kick out of it. Anyway, just wanted to reassure others that it is light-hearted and fun.

Thank you again for everyone's support!

Joe

more stills
 

Hey folks,

Here are a couple of more stills captured from the "Babysitting Without a Net" DVD. The first one shows AMY and LOUISE continuing their game of Doctors and Patients.

In the second picture, you'll notice how far our gal has come in her choice of underwear, from the long bloomers seen in the original post in this thread, to these skimpy red things. Oh, and emphasizing the N in ENF... the bra and panties do come off!

Hope you enjoy,

Joe

Well Worth It
 

Just a quick note to encourage those who are wavering, to buy this film. Definitely the best ENF I have seen up to this point, and very high quality! The main character has a helluva body, and the acting is top notch. Well worth the $25!! My favorite scene has to be the "baking cookies"scene!! Support this film!

Great movie
 

I just got done watching this and I enjoyed it very much. Altho the inner pervert in me could have used more nudity of course. All in all the acting was great in my opinion and you can not go wrong with this concept. Thanks for a great movie and fast shipping. (Yeah I know that sounds like Ebay feedback)

Quick comments about the movie ...
 

Hey Joe.

Just got done watching it. You mentioned you wanted comments (both good and bad) ... I hope you don't mind that I post them in this forum rather than in a private email.

A couple things about the movie really surprised me: The camera work and acting were much, MUCH, better than I had expected. Very professionally done. However, from the reviews I'd read it sounded like there would be more visual nudity. I mean, she had a nice ass and all - but would have preferred to see her front-side and facial expressions a lot more (even if she is trying to cover herself up with her hands in the process). Sme "accidental" nudity would be great also.

Overall, good storyline, great genre, great production ... but in all honesty, when all these review talk about all the "nudity" in the movie - they really mean "ass shots".

For those of you considering purchasing Joe's production - I would say it's well worth the small investment he's sharing the film for. I certainly wouldn't have the talent or know-how to produce a film anywhere near this quality. And I would certainly purchase any future releases produced by Joe.

Good job!!

There's no frontal nudity in the movie?

full frontal nudity
 

Hey Marcello,

YES... there is full frontal nudity.

First of all, thanks to everyone for their comments. I esspecially want to thank Mattingly (one of the all time greats) for his comments. I agree, I would like to have included more nudity in the film, and I intend to do so in future projects. As it was, it is more of an issue of how the actress was photographed and from what angle. We had a fine line to walk between artistic and tasteful, without becoming gratuitous.

Also, one of the things we wanted to do was BUILD UP to the full frontal shot in the final classroom scene. So yes, there are proportionately more "Ass" shots then crotch shots. Having said that, there are a few glimpses of her front early on during the cleaning scene. However, this all culminates in the total frontal shot when LAURA-ANN is standing in front of the chalkboard.

So again, there is frontal nudity, you just have to wait for it.

Thanks!

Joe

I can't speak for all the reviewers, but when 99.9999% of the English-speaking people in the world say "nudity," what we mean is "without clothing." Some people may add up "crotch shots," "ass shots," etc., but that doesn't create a new language for everyone else.

Seriously though, for the people who haven't seen it yet: the nudity in the film is not edited, censored or proscribed in any way. For the record, the film does reveal that Ms. Berrybush grooms MUCH more extensively than her name would imply. But you only see that in brief glimpses. The lead actress does use her hands to hide her body somewhat, but I think that's what most of us here expect. Call me a perv but I loved going back over the film in slo-mo to catch some of those "glimpses" in more detail. Personally, I would have preferred a few more extended full-body shots (especially in the classroom scene), but I think the director was focusing a bit more on the facial expressions - which would have been a shame to slight.

All this talk has made me that much more interested in seeing a "Jenny" movie. The examination of subtle themes necessarily takes away from other kinds of fun. A bawdy, energetic film with more physical comedy would allow a lot more room for full-body shots. Hey: "nude physical comedy." Would that be an entirely new genre? If the director has half the luck finding an actress for the "Jenny" role as he did for "Ann," he could write a brand new chapter in film history.

As I said before, I was completely astounded by your ability to find ms. Himmelheber. But even given that, do you think there's any chance you can find someone who will be willing (and able) to play a part that's gratuitous as hell, and doesn't have all that artistic and tasteful crap in it?

Edit: OK, I know you can find somebody who'll do anything. What I mean is can you find somebody who can ACT.

Seriously, you need to watch "Fantom Kiler". I'm pretty sure you can order it here: http://www.fantomkiler.com/fk-html/fk1.html The first was good, the second totally sucked, and the third was so-so. Again I have to point out that the violence is terrible but if you can skip past that, the ENF camera work is amazing. If somebody could make a movie like that as a COMEDY instead of a sicko horror film, it would indeed be another classic. (And incidentally, it would please the most voracious nudity aficionado!)

Thanks for the answer Helmhood and I'm glad to hear you want to do even more in the future. I'll be ordering the movie as soon as I get my Paypal account going.

European Influences
 

Hey Kopema,

Thanks for the link to "Fantom Kiler"... I just ordered the DVD last night. I'm looking forward to educating myself further in the art of ENF filmmaking.

Truthfully, there is a lot of European Influnce that went into my first film. Looking back, there was a great deal of inspiration from the Italian sex comedy, "Il Merlo Maschio", or "Secret Fantasy", starring Laura Antonelli. For those not familiar, it is about a guy who gets off on exposing his wife in front of other guys. I am so proud to be half Italian!

Here are a couple of caps that show a scene of great Hidden Nudity.

This film also has a doctor examination scene (actually, two scenes) in which she gets completely undressed. There are many wonderful breasts and buns shots, which are just beautiful. Unfortunately, Ms. Antonelli never shows bush. But it is still great nudity, because of the situations. In the climax of the movie, she is singing with a choir, and at the urging of her husband, she drops her gown in front of the entire audience. We are treated to her bare breasts as she keeps singing! Now as a filmmaker, I think to myself, if she had gone full frontal, that would have been one of the greatest moments in cinema history. Nevertheless, it is still a great little picture.

Hope you enjoy,

Joe
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I am a huge fan of Laura Antonelli, and she does a great enf scene in this movie where she is fully nude, bush showing and trying to hide away from the flahing light, here is a cap and i hope it's OK to post a link to to rapid share.

http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?i...alicia37bj.jpg

http://rapidshare.de/files/5864607/l_a_malicia_2.avi

Some other films that are very good, anything from Tinto Brass is awsome. Joe i'm srill waitning for your dvd and I will coment for sure.

Babysitting without any clothes....
 

I too have reviewed this movie at a few other sites, and I see that 99.9% of the feedback here is positive - so at the risk of sounding redundant - BUY THIS FILM!

It's soooooo NOT about the nudity factor that makes this film great. The scenes are set up very well, the actresses do a more than convincing job in their respective roles as "naughty students" and "prissy teacher" and it does all build up to the final scene, which is HOT as HELL... in my opinion.

The frequent visitors of this great site will really enjoy it... it has so many of the factors that are posted here regularly, but all rolled into a single, very professional work. ENF scenes, great 'forced' stripping, female to female coercion... and yes, the lead actress has a fantastic ass!!

Trust me... you won't be disappointed.

And on another note - this is one of those things many of us have been waiting for! SirSeph posts his custom ENF photos here, which are fantastic... this is like a custom movie - created just for everyone here. So by supporting it, we are sure to see MORE great work from Joe and his talented team.

Just one fan's opinion.

McSkyy :D

I got the movie today,and it did not disapoint. I'm sure everyone may get a different reaction from this movie. My reaction was that kids today are growing up way to fast and people that have never been risk takers and have lived a safe life are begining to experience things and living life for joy. Just think of it this way, Joe has expressed his common interest with all of us. And some day we will be able to say our friend produced that movie. Movies such as emannuelle or Tinto Brass or tinto brass movies. Long live beautiful women, and the art of a nude body in all it's glory.

who can post more?
 

who can post more vidcaps from this wonderfull movie?thaaanks...
Zeegee

That's really up to Helmhood. It's his movie and I don't want people to step on his toes by posting more than he wants on the internet.

Thanks,

more pics!!!
 

Hey... Thank you to everyone for keeping up the interest in my film, "Babysitting Without a Net". I am also grateful for all of you who have placed orders, which will ensure that bigger and better productions are made! Now I would like to treat everyone to a few photos...

The first two images are from a 2nd Cheer that LOUISE does outside, that sadly my Director and Editor cut from the final cut of the film. It goes something like this: "Our power can't be broken in, we're spitting' flames and smokin'! We're not rude, we're not mean, we're gonna cheer for the other team!"

OK, not exactly ENF, but she does have an adorable tummy ;)

Third photo is a behind the scenes shot of the beautiful and talented Yara McCaly and Elise Ivy.

And finally, (what you all want to see...) here we have LAURA-ANN dusting the house stark naked, while embarrassed and vainly trying to cover up.

Special Thanks to Alex for moderating this excellent forum, and allowing me to promote my film.

Hope you enjoy!

Joe Flanagan
http://www.babysittingwonet.com

thanks
 

thank you....wonderfull movie,wonderfull scenes..wonderfull tummy:)
Zeegee