Learn How to Rotate Pictures
 

A mod left a note telling me I should learn how to to rotate my images (which this site randomly chose to display incorrectly) after he rotated them for me.

I'm looking for instructions on how to do that and this would be a sensible place for them.

Can someone point me to the instructions on how to do this?

Try IrfanView, under the Image tag, Custom/Fine Rotation, click on the up/down percentage icon, & it will rotate at 1 degree per click..

Try it, play with it, excellent little program, worth paying the small amount...

Thanks and I'm sure that's a fine program for someone who wants to fine tune (straighten) their image. But that's not my issue. Let me explain in more detail.

The images I posted were taken with my Nikon SLR. I downloaded them to my Windows computer. On my computer I viewed them with Windows Photo Viewer, straightened and cropped them using Windows Photo Gallery, and adjusted the lighting with Windows Photos. Next I uploaded them to my Flickr page in an edited form that I was happy with. Through the entire process, using all of these programs the orientation remained constant.

I later downloaded my images from my Flickr page onto my Android phone, and uploaded them to the One Click Chicks site. On my Android phone, the orientation was again the same as it was with my Nikon software, Windows Photo Viewer, Windows Photo Gallery, Windows Photos, and Flickr.

But when uploaded to OCC, some thumbnails are rotated 90 degrees from the orientation recognized by the plethora of software used up until this point (and some not). Despite some thumbnails being rotated 90 degrees, when they are clicked on within the OCC site, orientation is all of a sudden correct.

This is an obvious bug on the OCC site, and I've seen other posters struggle with the same issue. Mods perform some hokey work-around to correct the thumbnail orientation, and tell posters to figure that work around out, per the message in the title of this post, but aren't always helpful in pointing the poster at the instructions to do the bug work-around edit.

I'm hoping a mod or more knowledgeable poster than myself can post a link to the instructions to overcome this issue, which I stumbled across once but can't seem to find today.

Perhaps you mean https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/sho...22&postcount=2 . I occasionally had that "problem" a while back, usually from large pictures from flickr; when I tried to fix it (this was some years before the linked post) I found the versions that resulted had lost some resolution along with byte size, and I noticed as you did that once the thumbnail was clicked on a "wrong" one the orientation was correct, so I decided it wasn't worth the aggro.

Okay, thanks for the link.

Since the "fix" involves using Windows Photo and my preferred method of uploading to this site is via my Android phone, I guess my choices are; 1) Download a lower resolution file from Flickr, or 2) Accept that OCC is going to display my thumbnail improperly with knowledge that the properly oriented, full resolution file is accessible by clicking the thumbnail.

Unless there's a hokey Android workaround to this OCC bug?

I don't have an Android so not sure if this will work, but with mine, once I've uploaded the pictures I'm posting before I submit, I do a preview to check how the pictures will look when I do submit. I found large size photos are pron to the 90 degree thumbnail so I make it a rule to go no larger than 600 pix X 900 pix pictures and that seems to have solve the problem. I still do a preview but so far this has been as good a fix as any.

So today on the "Breast Friends" thread in the Exhibitionism section I uploaded 6 photos. The one below had a rotated thumbnail at full resolution (4288x2848) but when the thumbnail was clicked it displayed at proper orientation. I've just downloaded it at 640x425 resolution to see if the thumbnail is correct.

Okay, so the same image is posted above at low and high resolution. At high resolution this site screws up the thumbnail (which this site generates) by rotating it, but does get the orientation correct when the full resolution file I uploaded is displayed upon clicking the thumbnail. At low resolution OCC creates a proper thumbnail as well as getting the orientation right when the thumbnail is clicked.

This image was deleted from my above mentioned post by a moderator, presumably because I didn't "learn how to rotate pictures" as I was requested to do yesterday.

So question to the moderators. I have been directed to instructions on how to "fix rotation" using a Windows or Apple computer. Some of your users don't use those devices to upload posts. Is reducing resolution the only way to "properly rotate pictures" on Android devices? Or do you have a work around that allows them to retain their full resolution?

I cannot speak for other devices other than a Mac or PC, which are all I use.

As for this happening only with large size pictures, that's not true. I've had to rotate images smaller than 1MB here and I've seen images larger than 5MB oriented correctly.

For me, it's an aesthetics issue. If your photos are turned on their side, even though when downloaded they will orient correctly, it still makes the original post look sloppy, which makes the site look like it's frequented by members who don't care what their posts look like.

I learned how to rotate my pictures several years ago through trial and error after I saw some of my posts looked like shit. Here is what I do:

https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/sho...d.php?t=229044

I'm sure if you Google the problem for other devices, someone in the ether has the answer.

Okay, a few more points and then it's on to more important things.

- I think the aesthetics of my post were better before you deleted my image. I always try to position 2 landscape or 2 portrait oriented thumbnails next to each other, and deleting one image totally botched that sequence giving the post a scattered, disjointed appearance.

- Every piece of software I can think of displays my "improperly rotated" image above with the correct orientation, with the exception of OCC.

- I did not create the improperly rotated thumbnail, OCC did. In one case it got it correct (low res version) and in another it did not (high res version). All post processing of the low and high res versions is equivalent, exclusive of the resolution at which is was downloaded from Flickr, and yet OCC is not consistent in the way it creates thumbnails. That suggests a problem with OCC's handling of the image, rather than a problem with the post processing of the image.

- I am 99% certain that I'm correct in saying that another BB I frequent, Redclouds Explicit BB, which is also based on vBulletin, used to have the same problem. It was eventually corrected on that site. So I'm fairly certain that vBulletin's customer support could help you guys to fix it too, should you care to do so.

Flickr has recently increased the maximum resolution of images that they accept, and since a large portion of the images on OCC come from Flickr, and at least in some cases the issue seems to be related to high resolution which everyone likes, it seems that this will become more of an issue as time passes.

In my opinion asking users to tweak images that work fine pretty much anywhere else is bad policy on OCC's part, as it makes your site less user friendly which could deter some from posting here.

Thanks for your time, and I won't continue to pester you over this.

I appreciate your input, but the mods have no control over the technical side of this site. Only the Admin has that power. I suggest you take it up with him.

I also appreciate that you try to make your posts aesthetically pleasing by keeping landscapes and portraits together. I didn't realise you had that in mind when I edited your post because quite frankly, most people here do not. They slap up whatever they please and in any random order.

I only disagree that when you see pictures on their side, when it's easy to fix, it makes the poster look lazy, regardless whose fault it is, and that he doesn't care enough to make his contributions look nice.

I hate to interrupt your discussion, but I can offer you an explanation.

The short of it is that size doesn't matter (ahem...). Your higher-resolution pic in the example is actually "wrongly" rotated, as it appears in the thumbnail. However, it includes an EXIF tag specifying the correct orientation, that is, 90 degrees clockwise from how it is encoded in the file. Some programs (in fact, most programs) display it upright because they read the EXIF tags and rotate the image for you. However, strictly speaking, the picture is with the wrong orientation.

So, the problem has nothing to do with OCC or other sites. If you want to really fix the orientation of the pics, open them with a program that allows you to choose whether to follow the EXIF tag instructions or keep the real orientation, then rotate it and re-save it.

I have found a quick way to this too. Whenever I see a sideways thumb, I open the image in photo-shop and just resave it - usually at a 9 or 10 quality which is still high resolution. Then I edit my post and replace the the sideways image. It has worked every time for me and only takes a moment.

I suppose this is possible even without photoshop - just use your computer's image editor - but I can't be sure of that.