The story continues
 

My wife and I have been married for some 10 years now, and although we still find each other very attractive and we still have sex multiple times a week, we noticed a good year ago our sexlife was lacking in excitement. After being together for 10 years we have explored every inch of each others body, and have had sex in every way we could think off. So I descided to introduce some new and risqué things into our relationship.

The first thing we did was exposing my wife ever more to a former friend of ours. You can read all about that journey elsewhere in this section of the forum (https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/sho...d.php?t=215017). It started off relatively innocent, with us sending him pictures of my wife with some cleavage visible, or of my wife wearing a small skirt. But after some time it evolved to her wearing only a semi-opened bath robe when he was around giving him a full view of her panties and showing a lot of her breasts, and us sending him fully topless pics of her to him via Whatsapp. It’s too bad this very arousing adventure ended because he acted the way he did: we came very close to him feeling her up.

After that our sexlife once again became the way it had been: somewhat plain and not so exciting anymore. My wife has a very sexy body with incredible breasts (in my opinion at least), and posting her on this forum proved very arousing, so I created an account on Flickr. I have posted a lot of pictures featuring my wife there, in various stages of undress. To read the comments is very arousing indeed, but not the same as exposing her to a real person. Besides me posting risqué pics of her online, we also took a lot of pictures of her exposing her breasts or panties in the woods or other public places, which is very arousing too. My wife wants a remain a descent housewife on the one hand, but finds it highly arousing to go along with me exploiring her sexuality. Nowadays she is more then willing to lift her shirt or lower her trousers in public if she thinks no one can see her, and she regularly sits topless on our balcony (where she can be seen by our neighbours if they look at the right time).

A couple of months ago I asked my wife if she wanted to go to a pairsclub, or sexclub. The only rule there is you can only get in as a couple (male+female), but once in nothing is mandatory. It’s possible to have sex with others, but it’s also okay to only sit at the bar and have a drink. At first my wife was very hesitant, but after some explaining by me and laying out some rules (no touching or sex with anybody else) she agreed to visit one. However, as the moment approached we would visit the club my wife became ever more hesitant, and in the end I descided not to go so as not to cross her boundaries. For now at least.

My wife was very relieved about my decision, and thought out a compromise. Instead of going to the pairsclub we would visit a massage parlor, specialised in erotic massages. There are a couple of these within driving distance of where we live, and most of them offer a so called ‘couples massage’. For a (fairly hefty) price you get a full hour with a female masseuse, during which all three of us would be stern naked and the masseuse would try to give both my wife and I a happy ending.

I was curious if my wife would actually go through with this as the appointment approached, but in the end she did. So last weekend we visited the massage parlor, and both my wife and I liked it very, very much. It was very arousing to strip naked in the presence of someone else for the first time during our marriage, and then to be touched intimately by the masseuse and see her touch my wife. The massage itself was both relaxing and arousing at the same time, with my wife enjoying every touch and stroke. In the end she did not orgasm because of the tension, but she was highly aroused indeed and will probably have an orgasm the next time we visit. The masseuse proved very adept at working men. While I was stroking my wifes breasts she was masturbating my cock, and I had an incredibly strong orgasm. Both the masseuse and I took some pictures during the massage, which you will find below this post.

Afterwards my wife and I talked things over, and she genuinely liked it. On the one hand she was somewhat jaleous when she saw the masseuse touching me intimately, but on the other she was highly aroused by the things the masseuse and I had done to her and the fact my wife and the masseuse were both working me at the same time. My wife said she definatly wants to visit this massage parlor again in the (near) future, and so we will.

I am not sure how things will continue now. I will surely keep asking her to remove most of her clothes if we sit at our balcony or when we are in the woods or another public place, and take some pictures of her like that. Those pictures will end up on Flickr, it’s just too arousing to read the comments. Probably next week we will visit a nude beach on the coast, and we will surely visit the massage parlor again within a couple of months. I don’t know how this is going to end, but the fact my wife gets less shy every time we do something new and she finds the whole journey very arousing indeed makes me hopefull our sexlife will continue to be as arousing as it has been for the last year or so.

If there is enough interest and if there is something new I will continue this story to keep you all posted. What do you think? Is it a good idea to go further along this road? Do you have any ideas of things we can do which we haven’t done already and which ‘fit the bill’ so to speak and will not cross my wife’s boundaries?

I am so happy that you are continuing your adventures with your beautiful wife and sharing it all for us to read and see.
I have followed you since your first post and have seen how your wife and YOU have opened up to new sexual desires. It has been a real delight for me to actually experience this journey with you.
I hope you continue posting here. I (and I'm sure many others) look forward to each new step the two of you take towards sexual fulfillment.
Thank you for openly sharing your life with us!

Me too!
 

I am very happy to see you continue your story here too! I follow you on Flickr and see the pics you post (All excellent, I might add) but I've been missing the stories! I'm very glad to see you continue here.
Excellent sexy photos above, by the way! :D

Seriously you are amazing, thank you so much for sharing these erotic adventures with us. Please keep going, and as for going to the nude beach next week........ oh my god, YES

oleee oleeee
 

muy muy excitante
gran experiencia
me muero de envidia
gracias por compartirla
me encanta
morbo al máximo

very very exciting
great experience
I'm dying of envy
thanks for sharing
I love
morbid to the fullest

Great stuff
 

Thanks Tim for sharing these stories and pics of your erotic journey with your beautiful wife! I look forward to the evolution!

Please, Tim, go on!
 

Please, Tim, go on!

What a hot sstory, what inimate pics...Some ideas:

Let her go out without any undies (downblouse- and upskirt pics please...)
Go with her on a naked beach - and let her spread
Look for another man/men and let her show him/them all she gots
Let her do something with another girl / woman
Show her legs wide open please at home / on balcony
Spy her when she doesn't know it (Undressing, peeing, naked,...)
Touch her everywhere and let us see this...

Oh, so many ideas - that's not all!

Thx for this wonderful report!

Wow great continuing of the story! It progresses slowly, but in the right direction I think. Is going to the 'parenclub' again open for discussion?

Do these massage places also have males that do the massage? Maybe that's a next step for you guys?

Your wife has very nice breasts indeed, i'd like to touch them ;)

Second all the above, please do continue!

The Beach
 

Menorca mentioned the "naked beach", amongst other ideas.
Every woman is different to be sure. At one time, my wife's boundaries were wearing a bikini or showing off her substantial cleavage!

She got her exhibitionism "kink" started when I took her to a clothing optional public beach where most everyone was nude. Sitting far from others, she was naked in minutes. That became a weekly pastime. As things evolved, it turned out that she would rather get naked or at least topless on a non-nude beach, usually preferring to be at a distance from others. But this made her nudity much more noticeable to anyone passing by, which strangely enough, she very much enjoys. Go figure.

So, give a beach a try! Even if a clothed beach, a very revealing outfit might get her going. Or, she could try topless at a distance from others.... for a start.

Of course, if possible, a clothing optional resort could be a great way for boundaries to fall........... and learning to enjoy being comfortable with nudity. And, possibly dropping other boundaries!!!!
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Last weekend proved special indeed, and visiting a nude beach still has to come!

The first four pictures below this post were taken during a visit to town last Friday, with my wife wearing a very revealing dress (which is very short indeed!), no bra and only her panties below her dress. She did know she had to be very, very carefull about bending over or even sitting on the terras, since her dress was only barely covering her bum and pussy if she stood upright. A single gust of wind, or a simple moment of not paying attention, it would mean her panties would be on show for everybody to see. She was very contious of that, and did make a good effort to keep descent when others were around. Below this post are four pictures showing her like that, wearing her panties and that dress. She didn’t mind lifting the dress for the camera however, as long as nobody else could see her. The dress isn’t only very small, it’s also fairly revealing as far as her breasts go. At first she didn’t like exposing her breasts like that, but after a while she got used to it and even blushed after I told her the waiter took a good look down her dress when he served us our drinks.

After returning home from going into town wearing only that very short dress and her panties, I dared her to go to a shop near our house to buy something small, but this time without wearing her panties below her dress. At first she adamantly refused to do that, saying she was a descent woman who would never go out without panties and/or a bra. But after reminding her of the fact she had already gone out without wearing a bra in public, reminding her that during our entire holiday she went our braless, and telling her how beautiful she looked, she complied. So for the first time ever my wife and I left our apartment with her wearing no panties, and only a very, very short dress to cover her nudity.

During the short walk to the shop I asked her repeatedly to lift her skirt, so as to show her naked bum and vagina to the camera. As long as she was sure nobody was looking she complied, and you can see in the pics below this post she was really not wearing panties while going to the shop. At first she was very much looking around to make sure nobody was in sight, and didn’t want to lift her dress to show her pussy, but after a while she became more comfortable and less restricted. After we started climbing the stairs to our appartment I had a great view up her skirt, as you can see in the last photo below this post.

It was incredible to see my wife like that, considering she was very prude only a year or two so ago. Going out in a very short dress, with both her breasts and her pussy fully uncovered and not wearing either bra or panties was something I could have only dreamed of before. I think my gentle nudging and me assuring her she is in fact beautfill and a woman most men dream about made her confident enough to do this, and made her willing to expose herself like this in public.

This week we are going to a nude beauch in the Dutch province of Zeeland, and she already complied to going totally nude (as long as I and everybody else does!). She said today she would rush from the beach if she doesn’t like it, but I actually think she will be very much in her element. Ever since we started showing her to our former friend her confidence has taken a hugh boost and she is becoming less shy to expose herself if an opportunity presents itself. Today she removed enough of her clothes during a walk in the woods so I could fuck her for real, so she is slowly getting used to exposing her sexy body in a public setting (as long as nobody is present, or everybody is naked).

I think the key is to build a woman’s confidence. My wife (and I) are not photo models and we will never end up on the cover of some fancy magazine, but that doesn’t mean a girl can’t be highly sexy and desirable. My wife is very sexy being herself (in my opinion), and I made sure she knows how sexy I think she is. That makes her confident enough to show herself to others; it’s all about building her confidence, and making sure your wife feels sexy just the way she is! And in my opinion my wife is sexy as hell: her breasts, her c*nt, her bum and her belly; they are all part of her and I love every inch of it!

So this week we will visit a nude beach, and if there is enough interest I will post an update in this thread. Still open to new ideas however: the leap from an erotic massage by a girl to a swingers club is huge and I do hope someone can think of a middle road… A massage by a guy is not an option: the parlors in our neighbourhood don’t offer that…

Linda is truly a sexy woman! It is always wonderful to see her beauty. I would hope that she gains enough confidence to actually KNOW how sexy and exciting she is. She is truly a delight.
Thanks for sharing!

Shirt Idea
 

Tim, thanks for sharing. Here is an idea for a shirt. My wife likes to please me from time to time with revealing clothes. While out of town one weekend, she wore this shirt with no bra. I loved the side boob this shirt revealed. Maybe try to get Linda to wear something like this.

Tim,

A lot of us here thinks she is sexy too.

Great update as always Tim! It is incredible the progress you have made.

As for ideas of photos at the nude beach, maybe try to get ones where she is nude in the frame with others!

Either way I love the progress and can’t wait for more:)

Tim, maybe the massage parlours in your neighborhood dont offer a male masseur, but I think looking on the internet you could find a male masseur. As she already is touched by a female masseur, the step to a male masseur isnt a huge one. And thats your main goal I guess, to let her be touched by another man?

Great photos again, looks amazing!

After visiting the massage parlor and going out without a bra and panties my wife is slowly overcoming her inhibitions. Just two years ago, during a vacation on Tenerife, I send the first picture of her to our former friend in which she is not totally descent, and that started a journey of me exposing her ever more to him and others, and her getting used to it, liking it, and even wanting it.

Previous summer we already visited a nude beach once, but my wife didn’t go completely naked. She refused to remove her bikini bottom, and only wanted to expose her breasts. I did send some pictures of her like that to our former friend and she knew full well everybody at that beach could see her naked breasts, but she didn’t want to expose herself down below at that point. For me that’s very important: even if I want to get her as naked as possible while other people are around my wife needs to feel confident and must be willing to participate. My goal is to spice up our sexlife, and her willingly contributing is highly important for that! So a year ago while visiting the nude beach her bikini bottom stayed on.

Today however, since my wife had already gone out without wearing panties below a fairly short dress, I asked her to not wear panties (or a bra) for a whole day. That way, after arriving at the nude beach, it would take an extra effort to put on panties, instead of taking them off. Somewhat reluctantly my wife agreed to not wear anything below her skirt, but she did put her bikini panties in the backpack we took with us. So she could always put them on if she wanted to.

Before we left our home to drive to the beach we had a shower together, and I used the opportunity to trim her pubic hairs a little. That ended in hot sex (me touching her down below made her fairly aroused), and after that I was confident she would go fully nude at the beach.

After arriving at the village where the nude beach was located (Domburg) it turned out we had to walk quite a distance to the beach. Going nude is not allowed at most beaches in Holland, so we had to go to a specific beach located on the other side of town. It turned out to be an half-hour walk. Since my wife was not wearing panties and there was a lot of wind, my wife’s skirt often lifted to reveal her bum and vagina. She didn’t like that (at all!), and used her hands to pull her skirt down all the way to the beach. She was not always succesfull at that, as can be seen in the first picture below this post.

After arriving at the nude beach and seeing all the other people who were naked she descided to go for it. She first removed her T-shirt, exposing her breasts, and after I removed my own pants she went fully nude too. It was one of the most arousing moments in my life, seeing my wife totally naked and exposed in public, with both her breasts and her vagina in full view. Needless to say I was naked too, and I had a hard time not showing my arousal! I was not totally succesfull at that I’m afraid, so I had to lay down on my belly to hide my arousal. My wife first applying sunblock to herself, after that asking me to do the same to her back, and after that seeing her walk around totally naked didn’t help at all to be honest….

We stayed at the beach for a couple of hours, during which we played a game of beachball, read a book, and just generally looked around to look at the other people who were there. Let me assure you, my wife was –by far- the hottest woman on the beach (and also –by far- the youngest)! Most of the time I was okay as far as my arousal was concerned, but sometimes I really had to lay down on my belly to hide a bodely reaction… My wife strolling around totally naked, with her breasts wiggeling up and down with every step she took, was just to arousing. After some time she laid down beside me, but that didn’t make things any better. Her bum fully visible and naked, with her legs spread a little, made me want to mount her right there, at that very moment. I didn’t do it ofcourse, but the thought kept racing through my mind giving me a constant erection…

After a couple of hours we descided to pack and leave the beach to get a nice cold glass of beer at a nearby café. While my wife was getting up from her towl I took the last picture below this post, and I once again had an instant boner. Normally if I see her like that I am about to enter her doggy style, and having seen that a lot of other guys at the beach had checked her out made me incredibly aroused. I couldn’t make love to her right there, but I did get a chance to feel her up and she proved to be very wet indeed.

We talked about the whole experience during the (long) drive back home, and my wife actually liked the whole experience. She knows I want her to go naked in public and a nude beach is from now on a good place to do that: she had a good time while being there. She says she doesn’t get turned on by exposing herself, but I think she is actually turning into a little exhibitionist. I am still thinking of a logical next step. A swingers club (or ‘pairs club’ as it is called in Dutch) seems a little too bold, but I can’t think of anything that would be a step in between an erotic massage/nude beach and a visit to the swingers club… Any ideas?!

Great idea!
 

And he will come to your own home where she'd feel more comfortable!

Btw Tim, you are doing an amazing job! I dont think you need anyones advise. Every time you post a pic of Linda, get a hard-on! She is sexy af!

Tim, that last picture is awesome. I agree with others with the male doing the massage. Would you allow the male to be naked during the massage? And would you have a problem if Linda started to touch, stroke or even giving him a BJ?

Thanks for sharing and love the progress. Way to go!

Congratulations!
 

Well done! Perhaps another visit to the beach, but closer to others there. It would be nice to hear of their reactions (and hers!), while she chatted with others naked. It is one thing to be in a naked environment at a distance but close up gets quite personal and exciting.
Linda has proven to be quite a remarkable woman. She should feel proud of her gorgeous body.
Good for BOTH of you! And thanks for sharing this wonderful journey!

Tim81, thank you for sharing.

What you & your wife are experiencing and enjoying sounds a lot like what my wife and I started out like and progressed on to other things (We still love to go out and do some flashing pics when we get chance).

We also go to adult clubs.
We were obviously nervous and apprehensive about going, but it was one of the best things we have ever done.

We go, we relax, we socialise and treat it as an evening out. We people watch and enjoy the surroundings, no plans made, just enjoy the evening with no pressure on anyone to do anything we're not comfortable with.

Go and enjoy yourselves and make the most of your journey together experiencing new adventures.

Does your wife look at the posts on here?

Great progress
 

Wonderful pictures Tim. Your wife looks stunning standing completely naked outdoors. We also love the windy up skirt shots you have taken. From the smile on her face she seems quite happy to be nude outdoors and for you to photograph her.
Keep up the good work and we can't wait to see the next step.

She knows I post pics of her online with her face cropped, but she doesn't want to read the comments. I told her multiple times now all comments are positive and it would be good for her confidence if she did read them, but she still refuses.

That would perhaps be part of the problem: I don't think my wife wants an erotic massage by a man, especially not at our home. For her it would be far better to go to a parlor and have the massage. I will google some more: perhaps I can find a massage parlor which does offer a male masseuse...

When we started this journey a couple of years ago I was very adament I did not want anybody to touch my wife, but that has actually changed. Nowadays I would very much like to watch her while another guy feels her up, and touches her intimate parts. I talked to her about that (her being with another guy), but she was very clear she doesn't want that. But considering we are now doing things that were totally out of the question a year or so ago, who knows were this will lead...?

Next steps...
 

Oh Tim, very horny story, what a wonderful lady you've got...

Next steps?

Be naked at beach again and ask her to spread her legs a littlebit, so that other men (and women) can seed a lilltebit of her deepest secrets...

Go to a swinger-club, just look and see, n o touching or fucking first time...

Let her be totally naked on your balkony... Even when the neighbours look at her...

Open windows ba full light and let her run naked at home...

Let he pose naked at open window so everyone can see her naked... Day and night...

Let good friends make photos and vids of her - sexy, braless, naked...

Let her touch by a girlfriend or her best male friend at her superweet titties...

Let her show her clit and pubic lips to them too, later...

Show her naked in web and let her look - maybe with face?

If she wants it, too, let her fucked with others - but just at the end and if she wants...

And please show us more of her - great pics, great storiy, thank you very much!

This I forgot...
 

Oh yeah, I bet she knows you want her to give herself to someone else, and she's ready to go on a long journey and then have sex with other men (and / or women) at the end - with you or without you ...

Lol!
 

I seriously doubt Tim wants other men to "seed (her) a lilltebit" 😂

Seeding would not really be something I would like... :cool:
Feeling her up and perhaps even more (while wearing a condom!) on the other hand.... :p

You (and she) have definitely come a long way from the beginning of your postings. Good job!

Please...
 

Please... Let the story goes on, i beg! Thx!

Amazing.

Just amazing, Tim. And very arousing to read / see.

Any other pics of the massage session, even of you both?

Yesterday I received an email from Flickr informing me about the fact the descided to close my account. They say it was in violation of there user agreement, which I don't understand considering what other people upload at Flickr. The email was actually fairly unfriendly, and it stated amongst other things I would never be allowed to open another account there…

Ofcourse there a work arounds for that, like p.e. using on of my other emailadresses, but I actually don't like the fact they frown upon the kind of pictures I posted there (ranging from downblouse to fully nude). I put quite some effort in posting on Flickr. My 300 pictures had almost 800.000 views and thousands of comments combined, and to lose all that is quite a disappointment.

If my wife and I take a new step in exploring her sexuality I will surely post it here. This is by far the best forum I have ever come across to write about the journey my wife and I are taking. But this forum is not a place to just upload sexy pictures, in my opinion at last. If I post here I want it to come with a story and be meaningfull in more ways then just to show my wife's tits or body. That's were Flickr came in: it was easy enough to just upload some pictures there and read the comments.

What would you do? Do you know of a site like Flickr where I can upload some sexy pics of my wife so she can be admired by others and can be commented on? It will not change anything in regards to OCC, since the story I will continue to post here of course.

Check out zoig. I have used it to share pics and stories and received loads of comments and some great tribute videos and pics. It's free too.

Xhamster. It’s almost like Facebook for sex.

Sorry to hear about this Tim, I know how discouraging it can be to have someone decide to just trash everything you've put so much effort into.
I am glad to hear that you will continue to post your adventures here, however, and look forward to reading all the juicy details. Your pictures, if uncluded with a story, are always welcome here too.
Thanks for keeping us informed.

Thanks for the tip! I created an account there, and uploaded a couple of pics. They are now up for review, before they are shown on site.

Isn't Xhamster a full blown porn site like Youporn et al? I have visited the site before, but it didn't struck me as being a place to expose your wife….

Thanks! Will surely post any new additions to our story on this site if the is anything new to report.

A week ago my wife and I rented a little cottage in the Belgium Ardennes. It’s a very beautiful region, with rolling hills covered with forests, and our dog had the time of his life. We made some hikes in the region, and were impressed by the beauty of the country.

The parc with our cottage was a little disappointing however, with less facilities then we anticipated. It’s part of the CenterParcs group, and usually CenterParcs offers a very good experience, but this time the parc proved to be below standard. The food was not so good, the central Market Dome was fairly small, and the swimmingpool was so small we didn’t even try it our.

One good thing about the parc was the lack of privacy on the terrace next to our cottage. While laying down on the seats there we were very much visible from the cottages opposite the walkway next to our cottage, and I descided to use the opportunity to see if my wife was willing to expose herself. You can see the results below. The first picture shows my wife sitting on the bed on our terrace with all buttons of her blouse opened, and showing on of her breasts fully exposed. The second picture was taken a couple of minutes later, and shows her laying down with her breast fully visible for everybody who walked by. Every time she heard someone approaching she was quick to cover herself, but sometimes she was a little to late. The walkway in front of our cottage made a sharp turn just a couple of meters from our terrace, and people walking from that direction couldn’t be heard by my wife in time. I am sure quite some fathers rounding that corner had quite a nice view of my wife’s exposed breasts, before she realised they were there and covered herself. The whole situation seemed to turn her on quite a bit, and we made love shortly thereafter!

Next day we took a long walk in a nature preserve near the parc, and during the walk I dared my wife to open her top and expose her breasts. You can see how far she took it in the last three pictures below this post. At one point she even lowered her trousers and showed both her breasts and panties to the camera. The nature preserve seemed fairly secluded, but we were actually almost surprised by an older couple whole happened to walk into us while my wife’s blouse was fully unbuttoned and her trousers were on her ankles. We heard them talking about 20 seconds before they could see us and my wife tried to raise her trousers and close her blouse as fast as she could, but I think the older couple must have seen what we were doing. After realising that my wife blushed bright red, but her nippels were pooking right trough her blouse indicating she was highly aroused indeed.

After that close call she didn’t want to do anything erotic in the nature reserve anymore, but after returning to our little cottage she proved highly aroused indeed! She actually performed a striptease for me, as you can see in the last five pictures below this post.

After the massage parlor and the nude beach I am now sure she likes to be admired by others. She will not admit that, but the fact she keeps agreeing to exploring new things and proves very aroused afterwards proves she is fairly into it. She said she is willing to visit the massage parlor again, and is also willing to go to the nude beach again, so I think she actually likes the way things are going. Tomorrow my wife has promised to wear a very short black dress with white panties while going out, so I hope I can get her to spread her legs in public and expose her panties.

Wow
 

She is still as sexy as ever! You know what I hope? I hope you find someone else to show her off to in real life, like you used to do. That was so sexy. Many guys would love to be in the position your ex-friend was in. What an idiot! :confused:

But, following along with your story as it has happened is an agonizing tease for those of us who now concider you an internet friend and have fallen in lust with your sexy wife! You have come so far!

I assume you know you have the following option: you could post your photos in a new thread here on OCC, in the photo section and then provide a link to them in your stories here in this thread. Any hardcore photos (if we were ever to get that lucky) would probably have to go in an additional thread in the hardcore photo section and linked here. You'd never have to worry about your photos getting deleted like Flickr did, (That boggles my mind!) And your stories and photos would be linked together. I hope you concider that option!

I'm assuming that your wife knows and approves of the photos you post here so please make sure she knows about all the kind comments she gets here. She has lots of fans and I am one of her biggest! Carry on! :D

I second Nectcouple’s comments. Disappointed to see to account get shutdown as I always enjoyed the photos and stories. Always love to see more photos.

Wonderful woman!!!
 

Love this pics very much, dear Tim. First pics are unknown, but very beautiful! Big thx!!!

And a nice story!!!

welcome to the club... most of us there have had their accounts deleted more than once...

but we open them again, and the story continues...

sometimes it is worth e-mailing them and telling them that they are your personal pics - not voyeur photos taken of other people... and that your wife willingly and knowingly participates in them...
another way is to have everything visible only to f&f and of course marked "restricted"...