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nudony 03-13-2017 08:06 PM

Anyone else have a nudist partner?
 
There are a lot of stories here about peeking, voyeuring, exhibiting, sharing, etc...
My experiences are milder than some I've read here, but at the same time more "extreme" in some ways.

Both my ex-wife and current GF have been completely naked in public.

Nudism is for the most part non-sexual. With the exception of swinger resorts, or places like Hedonism in Jamaica or Cap d'Agde in France, there isn't a lot of sexual stuff going on. It's really mostly just people sun tanning, swimming and socializing as they would at any resort, with the exception that they are naked.
But still...there is something about a confident, gloriously naked spouse/GF that is just striking to me.

I've had the (sometimes) pleasure of being married to a nudist; and currently dating a woman who has done it.
My ex didn't start out as nudist. She became one after quite a long time of me trying to convince her to try it. When she finally caved and agreed to go to the resort, she was private, withdrawn and quiet. She'd get naked but hide. Then she started meeting other nudist women: bolder, more comfortable with their nudity. She made a friend who was REALLY comfortable with her nudity. And it started rubbing off on her.
So my ex started shaving. She started sitting by the pool instead of behind it. She stopped sitting/lying with her legs crossed; adopting a much more comfortable open-legged posture.
At the beginning she was very concerned about people seeing between her legs; but then she just stopped caring altogether. One day I was coming from the shower and saw her from across the pool, back turned with one leg propped up, applying lotion to her legs while bent over...I walked right to her and asked if she was aware that everyone could pretty much see her coot from behind; and she just shrugged her shoulders. She could have cared less! She just wasn't into hiding anymore. On another occasion she was going through her bag, bent over again, right on top of the guy who was sitting next to us. The guy made a funny joke about it; and she just laughed! Again she could have cared less!
People would sometimes walk up to me and tell me how "cool" they thought my wife was. I always took it as a compliment; actually I was quite proud of her.

My GF also started out really shy. It also took me a good long while to get her to a nude resort. Although she hasn't gotten as far as my ex, she still went nude, played and rolled around in the sand in front of everyone. I was proud of her for that too.

There is something about a partner who is confident naked. A partner who is so confident naked that she doesn't even care who is looking at her or where. For many women "showing the coot" is that last hurdle, the hardest one to cross. Being topless is one thing, being nude is harder; but being openly naked, with everything in full view: a heck of a lot harder. When a nudist woman, like my ex at the resort or my GF at the beach, crosses that hurdle and doesn't care to hide the coot anymore...well it's a beautiful thing. Over the years, people have seen my ex laying around legs open, chatting, running with her big boobs bouncing all over the place, squatting, bent over; every possible angle and posture. Our good friends have even seen her labia pretty close up as she sat across from them. And the compliments I've received for her "confident nudity" have only filled me with pride. One friend once asked me how I truly felt knowing that possibly hundreds of people have seen my ex naked. I replied that not only have a lot of people seen her naked; but many people first met her or chatted with her while she was chillin' spread out with her coot open right in front of them! He was shocked that I could talk about her that way; but really I was speaking with affection and pride. I loved the fact that I could tell people: "Yes; my wife was so confident naked that she knew people could see her REALLY naked and be totally comfortable with it!"

DiegoJames 02-10-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2399862)
there is something about a confident, gloriously naked spouse/GF that is just striking to me.

We went to Spain 30 years ago and happened upon a naturist beach section while in the company of another couple we'd met. We all looked at each other and said 'shall we...no, let's not'. We left, a bit embarrassed.

However, the next morning over breakfast in out hotel, conversation turned to the beach and us maybe all taking another look.

None of us were naturist at the time, all four of us in swimsuits out for a stroll, but there was a bit of 'I will if you will' bravado going on, and we were beginning to look out of place in swimwear. The other male and I were ribbing each other about who might be more 'impressive' when nude, each of us downplaying our equipment in case the other measured up better. The other female loved to sunbathe topless, and had done so around our hotel pool, but my wife had never sunbathed topless before, let alone nude.

If you've ever seen the film 'Butch Cassidy' there's a bit where they can shoot it out or jump over a cliff, and the Sundance Kid just gives this low growl before going for the jump that might kill them.

Next thing I know, the other lady starts doing a similar low, building growl and she's ripping off her bikini top, then attacking her bikini bottoms. Well, that simply started a frenzy of undressing and in about 20 seconds we were all naked and laughing like kids, all headed for the sea.

My wife, as I said, had never so much as been topless before, but she loved the experience of swimming naked more than anything. There was a realisation that, whatever hangups she may have had about her body (and she was and is slim and shapely) they melted away when she experienced naturism for herself.

We remain regular naturists to this day, and while she wouldn't necessarily describe herself as 'confident' about her body, she is 'content' and 'happy' being naked in a naturist environment.

jill8 02-12-2018 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2399862)
...Then she started meeting other nudist women: bolder, more comfortable with their nudity. She made a friend who was REALLY comfortable with her nudity. And it started rubbing off on her.
So my ex started shaving. ..."

This also reflects my experience of how women who, once they become comfortable with their own nudity and meet other women then take steps to being completely bare by shaving and then abandoning past taboos like not spreading their legs. It takes a while for many women to understand that the bare smooth vulva is an attractive and central feature of their attractiveness.

DiegoJames 02-12-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jill8 (Post 2578891)
It takes a while for many women to understand that the bare smooth vulva is an attractive and central feature of their attractiveness.

A trimmed or fully natural pubic area is equally attractive, so I wouldn't say smooth is necessarily 'central'. It's a woman's brain that is central, with physical attributes (for me, anyway) secondary.

nudony 02-12-2018 06:29 PM

For some nudist women, shaving is that "last" step towards removing that last piece of "coverage" (since a bush will "hide" most of the vagina/labia); and not hiding anything anymore.

That was the case with my ex. She started out with a full bush. As she started getting naked more often, she started trimming. Then after a while of socializing with nudists and growing her confidence being naked in front of other people, she decided to start shaving.

I think she'd always liked the "smooth" look. She'd seen it on other nudists and liked the idea. But up until then she'd been too self-conscious about people being able to see her genitals completely bald. When her confidence grew to the point that she was no longer so concerned about how much other people "saw", she decided to take that last step.
She loved it. She told me it felt even "more naked", especially when she swam and felt the warm water "everywhere" on her body. Her new "bald look" was well received by our nudist friends, and she was quickly comfortable socializing in her new found freedom from pubic hair. I think it was very liberating for her.

I don't think there is necessarily a correlation between shaving and naked confidence. But for some women it does make a big difference. When I think about my ex's confidence levels pre-smooth and post-smooth, while socializing or just lounging around naked, it was like night and day.

stevezr1 02-14-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2579235)
For some nudist women, shaving is that "last" step towards removing that last piece of "coverage" (since a bush will "hide" most of the vagina/labia); and not hiding anything anymore........................................... ...
...............She loved it. She told me it felt even "more naked"...................................

I agree. With my wife, baring her pussy was, and still is a much bigger deal than showing her tits. That "last" step. or, a step beyond.
When we first started getting naked at the beach, she went "all-in" and bared all, caught up in the initial rush of being naked in public. But she always had a little trimmed vee or patch above the pussy.

After we grew accustomed to being nude at the beach, I knew that showing her tits off was something she truly enjoyed. Showing her pussy was just something that came along with baring her tits, but she wasn't that into showing her pussy. I have always wanted her to shave everything from the top of her slit and down, and she has always done that for me.

She does have large and hanging lips. I love them, but no matter what I say or how much I compliment them, she seems to feel they are not "pretty". So she has gone through periods of being tolerant of showing off her pussy and not. There have been periods where she is more confident and will parade around showing all, and at other times, will be quick to grab a little sarong or scarf to wrap around if we're out walking.

She has never, that I can recall, shaved herself completely bare, always some patch of some kind above. When I asked why she would never shave completely, she said that the little patch diverts attention away from her prominent lips.

Someone please talk to her and tell her that her pussy is pretty, luscious and very erotic and a sight to behold!...... :p
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raysallx 02-15-2018 12:36 AM

I do
 
I’m very fortunate in that my wife was a nudist before I met her. We all like safety in numbers, but for some reason she has no problem being nude, even if she’s the only naked woman at the beach. I too feel pride about her confidence. I know a lot of guys here talk about sharing photos of their wife, but having others see her naked in person brings things to a different level.

It seems most women (even the “perfect” ones) have insecurities about their bodies. I think a lot of this is cultural. My wife says when women get together they always complain about some aspect of their appearance, as if it’s required during female get-togethers. She doesn’t participate, but she does feel some of those insecurities.

She was once completely shaved for 4 years, I think because she felt it took attention away from her large breasts. But at some point she decided she no longer liked how the shaved look appeared on her (although I did) so she went to the hair on top, shaved lips look. I didn’t notice any change in confidence.

I too love long and hanging lips, but here’s another example of how our society (and the plastic surgery industry) wants everyone to look the $ame. I hope it’s died out, but there was a big push a few years back for women to get surgery to “trim” their lips. Can you imagine that pain? Many women can’t seem to understand that no matter what their natural look is, a certain percentage of guys are going to go gaga over it. And if they happen to be married to one of those guys, then who gives a rip what anyone else thinks? And if they really do think their body is ugly, I'd say it makes more sense to see a psychologist than a surgeon.

OK, off my soapbox now.

nudony 02-15-2018 06:49 PM

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She has never, that I can recall, shaved herself completely bare, always some patch of some kind above. When I asked why she would never shave completely, she said that the little patch diverts attention away from her prominent lips.

Someone please talk to her and tell her that her pussy is pretty, luscious and very erotic and a sight to behold!...... :p
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I don't think it's uncommon for women with large labia/big vulvas to keep "hair down there"; as some think being shaven will bring too much attention to it. My fiancée has "big lips" and she doesn't shave: one - because it's harder to do, two - because she doesn't like the way her labia looks completely exposed.
My ex had everything "tucked in." Small "everything." Since all you could see is a "clean slit", she was a lot less self -conscious about being completely shaven and sitting...not quite like - but close - to the model below. She figured people couldn't really see "anything" anyway; so why be self-conscious?

Large labia, clean slit, big dick, micropenis...I don't think it should ultimately determine how you feel about yourself at the nude beach or nudist resort. People may look; but most don't care all that much.

raysallx 02-16-2018 12:40 PM

Do the clam
 
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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2580701)
I don't think it's uncommon for women with large labia/big vulvas to keep "hair down there"; as some think being shaven will bring too much attention to it. My fiancée has "big lips" and she doesn't shave: one - because it's harder to do, two - because she doesn't like the way her labia looks completely exposed.
My ex had everything "tucked in." Small "everything." Since all you could see is a "clean slit", she was a lot less self -conscious about being completely shaven and sitting...not quite like - but close - to the model below. She figured people couldn't really see "anything" anyway; so why be self-conscious?

Large labia, clean slit, big dick, micropenis...I don't think it should ultimately determine how you feel about yourself at the nude beach or nudist resort. People may look; but most don't care all that much.

Agreed.

That model has everything tucked in, but wow, it's still prominent. Reminds me of the Elvis lyrics:

"Do the clam,
do the clam,
dig right in and do the clam!"

stevezr1 02-19-2018 05:21 PM

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I don't think it's uncommon for women with large labia/big vulvas to keep "hair down there"; as some think being shaven will bring too much attention to it. My fiancée has "big lips" and she doesn't shave: one - because it's harder to do, two - because she doesn't like the way her labia looks completely exposed...............

OK, here is a very rare pic of the wife's large-lipped pussy that she isn't all that proud to show off. In this pic, not much "hanging", but when standing, yeah. Obviously shaved, but can't see the patch above in this shot. I've posted this pic here before a long while back. (wife's pussy thread?)
I love a meaty pussy, a pussy with some "personality". She isn't so happy with it.
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She must have been in a mood where she was feeling more confident about her pussy when this pic was taken, as was sitting spread wide at the beach.
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nudony 02-20-2018 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stevezr1 (Post 2582780)
I love a meaty pussy, a pussy with some "personality".

That actually looks quite a bit like my fiancée's! And I agree!

It takes a fairly confident - or exhibitionist - nudist woman to hang out legs open at the nude beach or resort. Many women are hung up on notions such as:
- My vagina is for my husband's eyes ONLY.
- My {fill in the blank} pussy is not "pretty" enough compared to these younger women with tiny labia.
- It's not "lady-like" to just hang out with your vagina showing
- If I sunbathe with my legs open everyone is going to be staring at my pussy.

If you think about it, how many nudist men do you see sitting around or walking with their dicks tucked between their legs? Probably none. Because it's uncomfortable and unnatural. Well a woman sitting with her legs tightly closed is also uncomfortable. The pussy is closed up, sweat accumulates. It's not hygienic.

I know I'm "preaching" to a bunch of guys here. All I know is when my partners stopped hiding their pussies, they found it very liberating. As a nudist: they're not meant to stay hidden.

dftemp 02-20-2018 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2583318)
That actually looks quite a bit like my fiancée's! And I agree!

It takes a fairly confident - or exhibitionist - nudist woman to hang out legs open at the nude beach or resort. Many women are hung up on notions such as:
- My vagina is for my husband's eyes ONLY.
- My {fill in the blank} pussy is not "pretty" enough compared to these younger women with tiny labia.
- It's not "lady-like" to just hang out with your vagina showing
- If I sunbathe with my legs open everyone is going to be staring at my pussy.

If you think about it, how many nudist men do you see sitting around or walking with their dicks tucked between their legs? Probably none. Because it's uncomfortable and unnatural. Well a woman sitting with her legs tightly closed is also uncomfortable. The pussy is closed up, sweat accumulates. It's not hygienic.

I know I'm "preaching" to a bunch of guys here. All I know is when my partners stopped hiding their pussies, they found it very liberating. As a nudist: they're not meant to stay hidden.


When we are at naturist resorts et cetera, my wife sits with her legs well spread. She sat more demurely to start with. But once she had been fucked in front of an audience, there seemed lttle point in keeping her legs closed for the sake of modesty.

nudony 02-21-2018 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dftemp (Post 2583437)
When we are at naturist resorts et cetera, my wife sits with her legs well spread. She sat more demurely to start with. But once she had been fucked in front of an audience, there seemed lttle point in keeping her legs closed for the sake of modesty.

:D That reminds me of an old customer of mine, who was a full-nude exotic dancer.

The topic of the nude beach and tanning came up while we were joking around one evening. She told me the nude beach was great for maintaining her tan; and she took great care to make sure she was evenly tan everywhere, which incidentally meant she spread nice and wide.
I said something about modesty, which made her laugh. Since thousands of men saw her naked up close and personally routinely at work, she certainly had no issue with guys looking at her open pussy at the nude beach!

I guess modesty is in the eye of the beholder. Some women just don't have any issues there!

DiegoJames 03-01-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by truenorth (Post 2587997)
Fucking as audience entertainment. What naturist resorts feature this?

He's probably talking about Cap D'Agde.

Once the jewel of European naturism, now something else entirely. See the thread dedicated to the place elsewhere on the forums.

The vintage photos show how it was, more modern ones how it is...

Now longer 'genuine naturist' in my view, although there remain pockets of genuine naturism within it. As for the rest of it, no, wouldn't go back while it is how it is.

nudony 03-01-2018 05:21 PM

It's weird how Cap d'Agde changed...:confused:

When I was a kid growing up in France, that was the place to go for nudist families. Kids everywhere. By the 90's it was a swinging haven. From what I hear you can't even go for a walk there now without seeing someone fucking.

It almost seemed like it happened overnight.

DiegoJames 03-02-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2588039)
It's weird how Cap d'Agde changed...:confused:

When I was a kid growing up in France, that was the place to go for nudist families. Kids everywhere. By the 90's it was a swinging haven. From what I hear you can't even go for a walk there now without seeing someone fucking.

It almost seemed like it happened overnight.

You can go to certain bits where it will still generally be families, bits of the beach by daytime, but that's a really minor part of it now.

It seemed as if what was a brilliant idea, the whole 'naked city' bit, was swept away on a tide of voyeurs, swingers and exhibitionists. If that's anyone's idea of a good time, great, go for it! But I just wish they'd built their own location rather than steal the Agde that was.

winston optic beer 03-02-2018 09:10 PM

Although I’ve never heard my wife describe herself as a nudist, she certainly likes to sunbathe naked whenever possible. She had been to nude beaches with her previous partner and introduced me to some such places she knew. I didn’t discover this about her until we took our first holiday together.

I have also been naked on beaches with both of my previous partners. The first one was as enthusiastic about nude sunbathing as my wife and sought out places where she could do this. I never encouraged her - it just developed naturally because of the kinds of beaches we frequented as I liked to escape the crowds. It actually started in the grounds of my university during an exceptionally hot UK summer.

The second one always went topless whenever we were on holiday. She wouldn’t have been adverse to nudity but she had kids so we tended to go family orientated resorts. I remember she once surprised me by changing bikini bottoms without the aid of a towel at a busy hotel pool. I was impressed at her bottle but it was done in a matter of fact way not intended to be exhibitionist.

I don’t remember either of those two ladies ever doing anything special pubes-wise. In fact, I still have a photograph of the first one on a beach and clearly she had a full bush. My wife had hair removed permanently from the sides for high cut swimming costumes. However, she doesn’t remove any more than that for nude beaches. Nevertheless, she has commented that we are very much in a minority on the beach having any pubic hair at all.

I can’t imagine she’d deliberately lie with her legs open. That’s a little unladylike but i don’t think it’s possible for her to hid her vulva completely when lying on her back. She has a kind of running joke when any woman spreads her legs more than strictly necessary - saying to me “I can see right up her fallopian tubes.” She once told the joke in reverse when she realised a man had been sitting below her and she had been careless not knowing he was there.

I always thought she was completely relaxed about her body. However, last summer she was very uncomfortable paying a fully clothed sunbed man and cross with me for not doing it for her. When away with friends recently we went to the nudist part of the beach on our own. She was quite open with them about what she’d been doing when we met up for lunch.

For her nudism is very much an activity for foreign holidays. Even that has often been restricted by the kind of places we took our children. I don’t think I ever known her get naked on a UK beach other than briefly while changing and more often than not she wears a wetsuit for swimming.

dftemp 03-03-2018 04:38 AM

I was talking about Kestrel Hydro nr London.

Sadly it has just closed.

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Originally Posted by DiegoJames (Post 2588004)
He's probably talking about Cap D'Agde.

Once the jewel of European naturism, now something else entirely. See the thread dedicated to the place elsewhere on the forums.

The vintage photos show how it was, more modern ones how it is...

Now longer 'genuine naturist' in my view, although there remain pockets of genuine naturism within it. As for the rest of it, no, wouldn't go back while it is how it is.


nudony 03-03-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by winston optic beer (Post 2588549)
I can’t imagine she’d deliberately lie with her legs open. That’s a little unladylike but i don’t think it’s possible for her to hid her vulva completely when lying on her back. She has a kind of running joke when any woman spreads her legs more than strictly necessary - saying to me “I can see right up her fallopian tubes.” She once told the joke in reverse when she realised a man had been sitting below her and she had been careless not knowing he was there.

When I first ventured into social nudism, I joined a nudist club. The host was a lovely older long-time nudist, who vocally held the conservative view that nudist women deliberately lying/sitting with their legs open was "unladylike." At the time I was new to "social nudist etiquette", so I didn't disagree with her.
A while later we were both sitting on the ledge of the hot tub, chatting with our legs dangling in the water. At one point she "undeliberately" raised one leg up on the ledge while reclining. Which "gave me" a very direct view of her labia. It caught my attention; and the moment she realized it had caught my attention, she readjusted her posture to be more "ladylike." I smiled to myself and started questioning the whole "ladylike posture thing."

The "moral" of this story is that it's nearly impossible to maintain this "ladylike" thing; unless you literally just keep your legs closed at all times. Which quickly would prove uncomfortable and impractical.

DiegoJames 03-03-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2588853)
The "moral" of this story is that it's nearly impossible to maintain this "ladylike" thing; unless you literally just keep your legs closed at all times. Which quickly would prove uncomfortable and impractical.

Agree, 100%.

Yes, she was probably right 'back in the day', when 'unladylike' poses were the preserve of top shelf magazines. Wasn't it the received wisdom in 'ladies finishing schools' to sit knees together at all times? Nowadays, some of us are in working environments where we're sometimes familiar with the underwear of female colleagues due to them being less 'ladylike' in that regard.

The thing is, women will adopt 'unladylike' positions in a clothed environment, i.e one leg d****d over the arm of an armchair or kneed up against their chin while sitting on a seat, and no one blinks an eyelid. Because those are often 'comfortable' positions to sit in.

Naturism evolves. When I got into it no-one shaved. No-one used genital or nipple piercings. And to be shaving or having a nipple pierced, never mind a clit ring or scrotum piercings, wasn't considered 'the done thing'. Nowadays, no one cares!

In naturism, no one cares about these 'unladylike' sitting/sunbathing positions.

(Edit : an innocent word, as in to fold something over, or an alternative word for a curtain, appears to have been censored)

winston optic beer 03-03-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2588853)
The "moral" of this story is that it's nearly impossible to maintain this "ladylike" thing; unless you literally just keep your legs closed at all times. Which quickly would prove uncomfortable and impractical.

Absolutely. In the best possible taste.

barnyb 03-04-2018 05:23 PM

Ladylike
 
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Originally Posted by DiegoJames (Post 2588862)
Agree, 100%.

Yes, she was probably right 'back in the day', when 'unladylike' poses were the preserve of top shelf magazines. Wasn't it the received wisdom in 'ladies finishing schools' to sit knees together at all times? Nowadays, some of us are in working environments where we're sometimes familiar with the underwear of female colleagues due to them being less 'ladylike' in that regard.

The thing is, women will adopt 'unladylike' positions in a clothed environment, i.e one leg d****d over the arm of an armchair or kneed up against their chin while sitting on a seat, and no one blinks an eyelid. Because those are often 'comfortable' positions to sit in.

Naturism evolves. When I got into it no-one shaved. No-one used genital or nipple piercings. And to be shaving or having a nipple pierced, never mind a clit ring or scrotum piercings, wasn't considered 'the done thing'. Nowadays, no one cares!

In naturism, no one cares about these 'unladylike' sitting/sunbathing positions.

(Edit : an innocent word, as in to fold something over, or an alternative word for a curtain, appears to have been censored)

I find that some woman are shy about their labias and will not show particularly middle waged woman. I have been with some woman at the beach for several days and have not seen their lips. There will always be those that are comfortable with their legs spread. What I have noticed is that younger woman are now more comfortable with their legs apart. They are modern, have grown up with the internet and are flirty. To have their pussies exposed is modern, confident, and acceptable. Just look at all the selfies of girls on the internet.

What should be understood is that these woman are not necessarily wanting sexual attention, they are just flirting. They like to be viewed but not necessarily perved at. The line can be fine between the two.

nudony 03-05-2018 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by barnyb (Post 2589540)
I find that some woman are shy about their labias and will not show particularly middle waged woman.

I think the "smoothy" movement has a lot to do with this. It just "took off" sometime in the early 90's; as the thong became popular and women had to shave more and more in order to not have hair sticking out from under their tiny thong. Brazilian waxing just grew from there as younger women decided to go completely smooth.

Some of the "older" nudist women I knew and spoke with were totally against shaving completely. They felt it was "immodest", "pre-pubescent" or even "pornographic." I understood the resistance: they had grown up in an era where a full bush was the norm and provided a natural "coverage" to their most intimate part. I think it was definitely a lingering sense of modesty.

My fiancée doesn't go completely smooth because she doesn't like the way her labia looks shaved bald. But my ex decided to try it one day. She had spoken with some of these "older" women who were "pro-bush"; so for a while she kept hers. But then she saw some smooth women at the resort and liked the way it looked. So one day after the resort she decided to shave completely when we got home, and shave bald again before we headed back out to the resort.
And it completely changed her attitude about being naked. She told me one day that the feeling of the pool water hitting her bald pussy, or applying lotion and feeling the sun tanning her naked labia, made her feel even more naked, even more "free." So she threw out the notion of "ladylike" posture these "older" nudist women had shared with her; which she came to consider as antiquated; even anti-feminist. Her viewpoint was that if men could lay with their legs open, there was no reason why she couldn't lay or sit the same way. Her attitude reflected her viewpoint: she didn't "spread-eagle" for anyone's benefit (unless she was joking around), but she didn't make any effort to hide her bald pussy from anyone either.

I think a lot of women have experienced that same sense of "liberation" when shaving completely. And so legs started opening up more. But I also think variety is great: "modestly" hairy pubes or totally bald; it's all good as long as everyone is comfortable. Both should be accepting of each other.

winston optic beer 03-05-2018 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nudony (Post 2589678)
But I also think variety is great: "modestly" hairy pubes or totally bald; it's all good as long as everyone is comfortable. Both should be accepting of each other.

I’d like to see a world where women are free to cover themselves from head to foot in a burka or strut around completely naked and delipata on a beach as they choose. It’s nobody’s business but their own. Having said that I have great admiration for women who have the bottle to do the latter.

However, I don’t necessarily see removal of hair as liberating - we don’t see too many women emulating men by shaving their heads.

nectcouple 03-07-2018 01:15 PM

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- we don’t see too many women emulating men by shaving their heads.

Thank God! :)

winston optic beer 03-07-2018 03:44 PM

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Thank God! :)

Some people out there like that kind of thing ;)

sammy15 03-19-2018 08:45 AM

Nudist Resorts
 
My wife and I have been frequenting nudist resorts since the 1980's and we still do today. I was wondering, there is a segment of the visitors who go to these resorts not because they are nudist, per say, but for other reasons. Nothing out in the open mind you, but an undercurrent. I am not judging anyone, to each his own, but was the movement like that back in the 50's and 60's? In the magazines it seems a bit more wholesome, while today once has to be alert for possible other motives when meeting someone at the resort.

nudony 03-19-2018 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy15 (Post 2596433)
My wife and I have been frequenting nudist resorts since the 1980's and we still do today. I was wondering, there is a segment of the visitors who go to these resorts not because they are nudist, per say, but for other reasons. Nothing out in the open mind you, but an undercurrent. I am not judging anyone, to each his own, but was the movement like that back in the 50's and 60's? In the magazines it seems a bit more wholesome, while today once has to be alert for possible other motives when meeting someone at the resort.

It depends where you go. Some family-oriented rustic resorts have maintained that same "wholesome" culture; while others, for the sake of increased revenue, adopted a more "liberated" approach. Thereby attracting people who were looking for more than just suntanning or swimming naked.

When my ex and I relocated and started looking at nudist resorts, we visited two. The first was huge, with nice amenities; but had a strong sexual undercurrent. I didn't mind the undercurrent, and neither did my wife; but at the time that wasn't what we were looking for. And after having a chat with one of the regulars there, I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone asked me if they could fuck my wife.
The second resort was rustic and wasn't quite as nice, but it was family-oriented and there was no sexual undercurrent. So we made it our "home away from home."

I'm not sure when this cultural split between resort types occurred. I remember reading an article from the 70's which was bemoaning the sexualization of nudism. So it might have started around the "sexual revolution" era.

JonThink 05-19-2019 03:06 AM

My wife -- the nudist
 
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I had wanted to try a nudist resort for decades, but I knew my prude wife would never go for it. We had been to a number of nude beaches, and she always gave me a tough time about going. At one point, my wife was complaining about wearing such skimpy clothes at biker rallies. She said, "If you want me that nude, why don't we just go to a nudist resort?" I thought that she was kidding, but I saw no smile. I said, "Sure, if you are willing to go and get naked." She agreed that she would. So off we went. It was amazing to see her get totally naked and assimilate so fast into the nudist culture. There seemed to be no hesitation or embarrassment whatsoever. She readily jumped into the pool and hot tub with many naked people present. She also didn't blink an eye at showering nude with naked men only a few feet away while she soaped up her entire body. She also readily gave naked hugs to nude people of both sexes as we said our good-bye's. She didn't hesitate or hold back when it came to shaking it all while nude on the dance floor or even dancing with other nude men. At our initial nude stop, we had planned to stay a total of three days. But when it was time to depart, she asked if we could stay an extra day or two. She was enjoying the heck out of walking around in her birthday suit. We played tennis, pickle ball, shot pool, played ping pong and even shot some baskets. And I must say that I totally enjoyed some of the views that I had while watching her do everything from dancing to tennis. The pool shots leaning across the table were nice -- front and rear. They say that these nudist resorts are non-sexual, but I have difficulty thinking that all these guys are not getting somewhat of a sexual eyeful when looking at some pretty nice ladies. I know my wife has a lot better idea how I measure up below the belt since going to these resorts. And one of the last nude resorts that we went to, we accepted an invitation from a couple to drop into their place for an evening drink. That later led to an accompanying invitation to have a swinging session with that couple. My wife and I just do soft swinging and are not into the hard swaps that this couple were suggesting. So I don't believe that all is totally non-sexual at these nude resorts. But, at least, the ones we have attended had nothing overtly sexual being done in any public areas. I would guess that there are many private sessions that can and do occur from time to time. The one thing that I do know is that my wife is not as uptight about being partially nude or dressing less modestly since going to these resorts. It is also interesting that she won't allow herself to call herself a nudist. We probably spend about three weeks a year or a little over at nude resorts. So far this year, we have stayed two weeks at nude resorts, and will probably stay another 10 days at another nude resort. Therefore, my wife is publicly nude about one month per year. When does she call herself a nudist? I think she doesn't like the label for some reason, but methinks she qualifies.

Shihoin 05-28-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JonThink (Post 2750098)
It is also interesting that she won't allow herself to call herself a nudist. We probably spend about three weeks a year or a little over at nude resorts. So far this year, we have stayed two weeks at nude resorts, and will probably stay another 10 days at another nude resort. Therefore, my wife is publicly nude about one month per year. When does she call herself a nudist? I think she doesn't like the label for some reason, but methinks she qualifies.

My wife is the same way. Even though we go to the nudist resort yearly and she goes completely nude there - even shaves before going so she can feel even more naked - she refuses the label; even going as far as saying that: "you're the nudist but not me!" That's probably because she sees nudists as people who "always go naked even at home"; and since she is usually only partially nude at home, she doesn't "fit the label."

I beg to disagree. Hundreds or more people have seen her naked over the years. She's socialized naked with strangers without any shame or embarrassment. She's totally a nudist in my book.

stevezr1 05-30-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shihoin (Post 2752919)
My wife is the same way. Even though we go to the nudist resort yearly and she goes completely nude there - even shaves before going so she can feel even more naked - she refuses the label; even going as far as saying that: "you're the nudist but not me!" That's probably because she sees nudists as people who "always go naked even at home"; and since she is usually only partially nude at home, she doesn't "fit the label." ....... I beg to disagree. Hundreds or more people have seen her naked over the years. She's socialized naked with strangers without any shame or embarrassment. She's totally a nudist in my book.

Apparently women denying that they are nudists is a common phenomena.
..... My wife denies being a nudist, even though we've spent over a dozen weeks nude at various clothing optional resorts, and hundreds of days nude at local beaches. But even more adamantly than denying she is a nudist, I don't dare mention the possibility that she is an exhibitionist because it upsets her. But of course this is exactly what she is.
..... What really gets her excited is to be ogled while nude in a non-nude environment. The usual scenario is at a local remote or sparsely populated non-nude beach. Also, it took me a while to realize that when at clothing optional resorts, she seemed to especially enjoy being seen nude by the occasional clothed resort guest. She would do this by choosing a spot on the beach or putting herself in situations where this would likely happen.
.... But a nudist? No way. Why? Because we've never been to a nudist resort. Apparently being nude at clothing optional resorts doesn't count.
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delt 05-30-2019 03:44 PM

Even at a nudist resort..
 
My wife would find the men at the nudist clubs that were not nudists. A Fed Ex delivery guy nearly ran into a tree staring at her full frontal 20 feet away. I asked if he was ok and he blushed. I offered to introduce him to her, not saying she was my wife. She would have loved it, but he said he had to go.

She helped welcome clothed men at a car show at a Florida nudist club near Tampa. She stayed fully nude in the parking area even when the nudists had put on shorts or cover-ups. She got a LOT of attention.

At a nudist club north of us, she and I walked down to where a new swimming pool was being built. She stood at the side of the pool while the construction guys, mostly young and black, were down in the unfinished pool looking up, directly into her partially spread legs. I thought she was coming because her knees got weak, but she squatted down which allowed her to spread her thighs even further. She pretended to look at the coping around the pool. A white guy walked up and asked me if I wasn't bothered with all these young men staring and I said no, I was enjoying it and would get some incredible sex afterwards. We did not get back to our room, we went into the woods not far from the pool and fucked doggy style. They probably heard us---I know they saw us come out of the bushes. The nudist club manager told us later we were not supposed to go around the taped off area. The pool guys could see everyone but from several hundred yards away, but they got to see my wife (and me) up close.

delt 05-30-2019 04:51 PM

Brought back a forgotten event....
 
My wife and I have four children, and one son was encouraged to leave public school and go to a "gifted" school, quite an honor. To be honest, we did not enjoy that snooty school as much as we did the regular school where we knew more kids, parents and teachers.

It was in the 1970's, when we went with friends who were teachers in the next state south of us to a nudist club they had enjoyed for years in the next state north. My wife was a bit nervous but she knew the friends would not lead us wrong and soon she was enjoying it. On this first visit, our friends (the teachers) had arranged to go with a bunch of their friends who were also teachers from the same college. Most of us were between 25 and 35 and many of the ladies were very attractive, so much so it was difficult to remember they were teachers. Our friends also took along their two daughters who were both pre-pubescent, maybe 7 and 10, and perfectly comfortable around all these adults and once at the nudist club, there were a lot of other children with their families. I was much more nervous being around these girls I knew fully naked than my wife was being around everyone, including young boys and teenage boys.

The next spring, our friends called. One of the teachers who was there (I didn't remember her) was an instructor at the gifted school and taught biology. She was hoping our lady friend would come to our town in a couple of weeks and help her teach her class. In the past, she had put on a wig and makeup or a mask and walked into the class of 5th and 6th graders fully nude, and use herself to teach anatomy while not speaking. This year she was very pregnant and could not hide that, so she was hoping our friend, who was about 40, would come to our town and play that role. She was calling to ask if my wife would do it and she put us in touch with the teacher. After making sure she would be disguised (our son would be in one of the classes) she agreed. I offered to go with her, but that would have given her away. That day she left home wearing a modest housedress with no underwear, that she could drop and pull up quickly, and some towels.

The pregnant teacher put a pumpkin mask on my wife and had her stand in a closet at the back of the classroom. Something they had not discussed was that this class had combined with another class, and only the boys could attend, along with the vice principal, a man we knew a bit, and another teacher, a man we did not know. The teacher gave a brief biology lesson and said "I wish we had a woman model to help explain everything" which was the cue to come out of the coat closet fully nude and barefoot. The kids were shocked and watched as my wife walked up and down each aisle letting every boy see her up close. She said standing in front of our son was a bit of a challenge although he had seen her naked before. After everyone saw her walking, she went to the teacher's desk at the front of the room and it had extra lights, so she knew what they would be studying. She guessed it was about 20 minutes of posing, both on her back with legs up and spread, and in a doggy style, and she was penetrated with a small dildo, something not expected. As it was inserted and pulled out a few times, she came, as quietly as she could. The pregnant teacher had been using a pointer to show the boys each of her parts, naming them and referring to a chart with women's parts labeled on it. The boys asked good questions----surprisingly knowledgeable----but what she had not expected was the two men who moved around to get a good view of everything. She thought they were just chaperones. Forty one males saw her in the first class, then she had a one class break, and then she did the same at another class with 28 males, including the basketball coach and another man she did not know.

Telling me that evening, she explained she came several times, trying not to make any noise or move too much. I told her I was shocked the school would do this but she said every boy had to have a permission slip signed by a parent. She had signed it. After school, when our son got home, he asked her if she had been at his school that day. He thought it was her, but she told him she was swimming and shopping. I don't know if he would have been upset that everyone he knew had seen his mother or not.

The next time I saw the teacher, soon after the baby was born, I asked if this type of exhibit was used in a lot of schools. She said they were common in gifted schools because the students were more mature, but not in public schools to her knowledge. Some would have the students go to an art class with a nude model instead of what my wife did. She also said that in Europe, some of the elite schools arrange to have women come in----usually the mothers or sisters of the students-----and have intercourse with the boys (not their own sons or sisters, obviously). She said she did that when she interned in France just after college. She said that she did not think that would work in the U.S.

Skeezle 06-05-2019 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by delt (Post 2753396)
My wife and I have four children, and one son was encouraged to leave public school and go to a "gifted" school, quite an honor. To be honest, we did not enjoy that snooty school as much as we did the regular school where we knew more kids, parents and teachers.

It was in the 1970's, when we went with friends who were teachers in the next state south of us to a nudist club they had enjoyed for years in the next state north. My wife was a bit nervous but she knew the friends would not lead us wrong and soon she was enjoying it. On this first visit, our friends (the teachers) had arranged to go with a bunch of their friends who were also teachers from the same college. Most of us were between 25 and 35 and many of the ladies were very attractive, so much so it was difficult to remember they were teachers. Our friends also took along their two daughters who were both pre-pubescent, maybe 7 and 10, and perfectly comfortable around all these adults and once at the nudist club, there were a lot of other children with their families. I was much more nervous being around these girls I knew fully naked than my wife was being around everyone, including young boys and teenage boys.

The next spring, our friends called. One of the teachers who was there (I didn't remember her) was an instructor at the gifted school and taught biology. She was hoping our lady friend would come to our town in a couple of weeks and help her teach her class. In the past, she had put on a wig and makeup or a mask and walked into the class of 5th and 6th graders fully nude, and use herself to teach anatomy while not speaking. This year she was very pregnant and could not hide that, so she was hoping our friend, who was about 40, would come to our town and play that role. She was calling to ask if my wife would do it and she put us in touch with the teacher. After making sure she would be disguised (our son would be in one of the classes) she agreed. I offered to go with her, but that would have given her away. That day she left home wearing a modest housedress with no underwear, that she could drop and pull up quickly, and some towels.

The pregnant teacher put a pumpkin mask on my wife and had her stand in a closet at the back of the classroom. Something they had not discussed was that this class had combined with another class, and only the boys could attend, along with the vice principal, a man we knew a bit, and another teacher, a man we did not know. The teacher gave a brief biology lesson and said "I wish we had a woman model to help explain everything" which was the cue to come out of the coat closet fully nude and barefoot. The kids were shocked and watched as my wife walked up and down each aisle letting every boy see her up close. She said standing in front of our son was a bit of a challenge although he had seen her naked before. After everyone saw her walking, she went to the teacher's desk at the front of the room and it had extra lights, so she knew what they would be studying. She guessed it was about 20 minutes of posing, both on her back with legs up and spread, and in a doggy style, and she was penetrated with a small dildo, something not expected. As it was inserted and pulled out a few times, she came, as quietly as she could. The pregnant teacher had been using a pointer to show the boys each of her parts, naming them and referring to a chart with women's parts labeled on it. The boys asked good questions----surprisingly knowledgeable----but what she had not expected was the two men who moved around to get a good view of everything. She thought they were just chaperones. Forty one males saw her in the first class, then she had a one class break, and then she did the same at another class with 28 males, including the basketball coach and another man she did not know.

Telling me that evening, she explained she came several times, trying not to make any noise or move too much. I told her I was shocked the school would do this but she said every boy had to have a permission slip signed by a parent. She had signed it. After school, when our son got home, he asked her if she had been at his school that day. He thought it was her, but she told him she was swimming and shopping. I don't know if he would have been upset that everyone he knew had seen his mother or not.

The next time I saw the teacher, soon after the baby was born, I asked if this type of exhibit was used in a lot of schools. She said they were common in gifted schools because the students were more mature, but not in public schools to her knowledge. Some would have the students go to an art class with a nude model instead of what my wife did. She also said that in Europe, some of the elite schools arrange to have women come in----usually the mothers or sisters of the students-----and have intercourse with the boys (not their own sons or sisters, obviously). She said she did that when she interned in France just after college. She said that she did not think that would work in the U.S.

Delt. Was it just two adult males in each class? Such a hot story!

xxxxenophile 06-05-2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by visa0061 (Post 2755219)
My ex and I got into BEACH nudism together. Notice the emphasis on BEACH because that's the only place where we were nude in the company of others. She was obedient and submissive by nature so it was more a factor of me telling her to wear thongs, g-strings, or go completely nude. On that note, a woman can be a nudist (or exhibitionist) already or simply converted into one. She was the latter. After the first time at the nude beach she was hooked. She loved being nude and being seen nude. Within a short period of time she was allowing me to spread her legs for gawkers and bending over in front of them.

Is this the ex from the Barely Dressed thread? She had it going on! Good of you to support her interests in that way...

raysallx 06-06-2019 12:14 PM

Yep, same here
 
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Originally Posted by stevezr1 (Post 2753303)
Apparently women denying that they are nudists is a common phenomena.
..... My wife denies being a nudist, even though we've spent over a dozen weeks nude at various clothing optional resorts, and hundreds of days nude at local beaches. But even more adamantly than denying she is a nudist, I don't dare mention the possibility that she is an exhibitionist because it upsets her. But of course this is exactly what she is.
..... What really gets her excited is to be ogled while nude in a non-nude environment. The usual scenario is at a local remote or sparsely populated non-nude beach. Also, it took me a while to realize that when at clothing optional resorts, she seemed to especially enjoy being seen nude by the occasional clothed resort guest. She would do this by choosing a spot on the beach or putting herself in situations where this would likely happen.
.... But a nudist? No way. Why? Because we've never been to a nudist resort. Apparently being nude at clothing optional resorts doesn't count.
.

My wife is the same way. She was going to nude beaches even before we met, but will never refer to herself as a nudist, although at nudist resorts she will talk to people like she's the most experienced nudist in the world. She used to be OK with the "naturist" label, but it seems even that is too much for her nowadays. Forget about exhibitionist. She too has been know to go off to the side of a textile beach and strip off. Another thing that surprises me is that she has no problem being the only naked woman at a nude beach. Her favorite spot to sit at the beach is near the entrance where most people entering (even the nudists) are still clothed. She also has no problem being at a mixed beach and sitting next to clothed people. The odd thing about her is that there has to be water around in order for her to be nude; she will not hang around nude indoors even at our house or the houses of our nudist friends...has to be near a pool, hot tub, river, lake or ocean.

Shihoin 06-07-2019 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by visa0061 (Post 2755219)
It's interesting because the line between exhibitionist and nudist is very fine and often blurred.
Pretty much every girl I've dated for at least an appreciable amount of time has explored exhibitionism and subsequently, nudism.

Sometimes it works the other way around.

My wife normally practices nudism "conservatively." But if she's had a few drinks, the "conservative" part goes right out the window; and she's suddenly hanging around other nudists with her legs open being "audacious."

Alcohol is of course an uninhibitor; and in her case it brings her "exhibitionist side" right out.

kutmzm 06-10-2019 12:38 AM

My wife and I have been nudists since 1992; we were hooked from the first time we went to a nudist resort. My wife is not at all shy, not even the first time. She has no problem with anyone seeing her naked. She's kept her pussy shaved since the late '80s. Although we're not naked all the time at home, we do sleep in the nude and it's no big deal to walk around the house with nothing on. Our kids have been raised in that environment all their lives so we're all comfortable being naked around one another.

JonThink 03-25-2023 02:50 AM

She loves nudity at nude resorts, but...
 
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My wife loves to be nude at nude resorts. She has no problem visiting with nude people in their homes or on their decks or while they eat in a restaurant -- so long as it is at or in a nude resort. Once out of the resort, her demeanor changes. She doesn't like being totally nude in non-nudist resort venues. I will say that she has gotten a little more loose about nudity in non-nude environments as of late. When I asked her about her reluctance to be nude in non-nude resort environments, she said, "I think the guys will think they can fuck me just because I am nude. That did happen with one couple, but it has never happened in a nude resort. It does seem that nudist respect a person's nudity and will not take advantage of a person strictly because they are naked. Now, have we ever been in a situation in a nudist resort where fucking could or did occur? The answer is yes. If one is at a non-public place fucking can occur. So, if you go for drinks in a nudist home, you may be asked if you want to get involved, but we have never felt forced to do so anymore than if we had clothes on in a non-nude environment.

Therefore, I think my wife feels more comfortable being nude with people who practice nudism as a lifestyle, rather than people who just end up naked so they can fuck. She seems to shy away a little more frequently when people get group naked just to fuck someone else. That is not to say that she won't get naked in a non-nudist environment, but she seems to be more guarded. Of course, if she has had a sufficient quantity of Tequila the threads do frequently get shed. And it is anybody's guess where it may go from there.

Shihoin 03-29-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JonThink (Post 3238123)
Therefore, I think my wife feels more comfortable being nude with people who practice nudism as a lifestyle, rather than people who just end up naked so they can fuck.

I think that describes the majority of nudist women. Unless they actually enjoy being sexualized; most AANR-style venues offer an environment where they know they can be naked without getting "pursued." And where other people are also naked and non-sexual, they find it easier to blend in.

My wife and I are "regulars" at a "nude-mandatory" resort. She spends the entire day naked and socializes with friends and acquaintances who are nude themselves. And she enjoys it. Some might figure her comfort being naked in front of other people would be a "gateway" to "other things"; but she draws a strong distinction between non-sexual and sexual nudity, and wouldn't be caught dead in the latter (unless it's just the two of us in private). For her it's strictly non-sexual nudity in a nudist setting.


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