The Dirty Photographer
 

Recently I decided to branch out in my photography. I'd shot plenty of subjects, but shied away from the whole modeling thing. After a few false starts, I decided to change course. Instead of asking a model to work with me and no nudity would be required (on a certain modeling site), I used Craigslist to find a willing female model who would bare all, sign a full release, and I would compensate her accordingly.

I chose a model who initially seemed conservative but said she would do nudity, no problem. I did not believe that until her second e-mail, which laid to rest any doubts about her feelings on nudity. She sent me plenty of full nudes she and her husband had taken. She is a beautiful blond with a great backseat, just to give you a visual. Her husband accompanied her on all shoots, which I was fine with (for legal reasons if nothing else).

Up front I admitted I wasn't sure how I might 'react'. I'd never been able to fully control myself in the presence of a naked woman, which was usually fine since we were going to fuck. They both thought it was funny, and said that was understandable :cool: . Thankfully they were cool with it.

So the first (and second) shoot we did were great. She loved being naked, and took it upon herself to insert a finger into her pussy every now and then at the request of her husband. The strangest thing was to be taking a break, while I downloaded pictures she just stood around in the buff, sometimes pressing her naked chest against my arm while we looked at some of the photos. Rest assured my cock was practically erect the entire time, I just tried to re-arrange it every now and then, so it didn't stand out.

Anyway, after the second shoot, we decided to go to dinner. While at dinner, they explained they were in fact swingers (surprise!). They weren't the every weekend kind of swingers though, they just liked to have fun with friends. And they made a point to say they considered me a friend at this point. I did not think too much of it at the time.

Her husband e-mailed me with an idea, involving among other things, a double or triple blow-job set for their private collection. They said they might have trouble getting some of their friends over, and asked if I would be a stunt-cock, the POV shooter I guess you'd call it. I suppose my answer is obvious at this point. After some initial shots on the next shoot, while completely naked, she said "OK, let's do the blow-job stuff!". I was down to my underwear in seconds.

She took her time rubbing our cocks through the thin material of our underwear, occasionally using her teeth (don't knock it till you try it), and before long, she was alternating between us, sucking our cocks like a seasoned professional. We did that for awhile, then took a break. While sitting on the bed, checking the camera, cock pointed straight up and hard, she held up a condom as I was doing some test shots. She had a devilish smile on her face.

That was my first threesome. I had always dated girls who were reserved, and would never entertain the idea of a threesome. We did things I had only read in Penthouse Forum. We both took turns fucking her while she blew the other one. After an hour we had to call it. And yes, the whole time we took pictures (and no I can't post them, I respect their privacy) thanks to my remote. I must say, I felt honored to be inside of a model instead of just photographing her. Her pussy was just as tight as it looked, and her pussy was constantly juicing it up, no lube needed. She could do little more than moan as we filled her at both ends, and we switched off positions as we performed some of our favorite three-way postions you only see in porno movies.

We have had a few more 'private sessions' since then, but I never thought this would be the outcome.

Some may say I crossed a line, but I disagree. I was invited to join them, I never initiated the situation. I would like to hear any similar stories, or what others on the board think.

I have been an amateur photographer for many years, and undertaken lots of nude shoots, but never had that good fortune - although fair to say - I have had many vivid dreams about doing so. - some were absolute stunners - one was a virgin, and took great pains to tell me so! Line? - no you never crossed it. Thanks for the posting. Don (Age 81)

I`m confused................... If she signed a full release , then why can`t you show the pics:confused::confused:

A little taste
 

The release was for the nude pics (not the threesome stuff), and if she give me permission to post pics of me fucking her while she goes down on her husband, you guys will be the first to know. If you need a visual aid, here is a test shot I took during our first photo-shoot that I do have complete permission to post. Again, I have cropped this for her privacy.

And yes, it tastes as good as it looks.

Just out of curiosity, how much is an average nude modeling fee? As an amateur photographer (with decent equipment.. Canon Rebel EOS, 50mm and 300mm lenses, multiple flash units, etc... ) I'm interested to know how much money I'd need to invest in decent models.

Modeling Fees and Art Nude Shoots
 

It's hard to get started shooting art nudes without an existing portfolio - many models will not work with rank amateurs who don't have some kind of portfolio they can examine, and they will still likely insist on a chaperone. The younger, less experienced models will go for maybe $50-$75 an hour. They tend to be flaky and will be the ones who will insist on a chaperone, who will likely be a jealous boyfriend (oh and 'flaky' means likely to cancel at the last minute, or just not show up). Many more experienced models are willing to work with newbies, but they will likely be more like $150 an hour. You still have the issue of studio space, or a hotel room, to shoot in too. The model is not likely to be willing to come to your bedroom for a first shoot.

I found that the best way to break into art nude photography was to become part of a 'meetup group' (google 'photography meetup-group'). That way, someone arranges for some models and some studio space with studio lighting and sets, and you get to shoot for a couple of hours with an experienced model, with maybe a half hour as the 'director' of the shoot. You get full releases from the model, too, all for about $100. No problems. I've seen photographers show up at these shoots with everything from very high-end Nikons to iPhones.

It becomes very surreal, because within five minutes, you become kind of immune to the fact that there are three completely naked women walking around the room, and doing so very naturally. As the photographer you become very focused on getting great shots, and not the fact that your model is nude. The models will pose at your direction, and put on or take off props as you wish. You can exchange casual conversation, but the photography (and not the model) is a big distraction to any banter. Some models come with a bag full of props - shoes, lingerie, jewelry, etc., and some come without. I've brought some of my own, too.

One good thing is that the meetup-group posting will let you know in advance what the model's style is. Some will do erotic (legs apart, etc), some will not. Good to know

Since they do several of these group shoots back to back, when your shoot ends you generally wind up shaking hands with a completely naked woman - certainly the first time I've ever done that.

Please do not ask me to post any of my art nudes here. I won't. They are technically against the rules anyway, since someone was paid for them to be taken. And no PM's asking me to email them to you either. What I will do, if I can figure out a way to crop or blur out the other people milling around in the studio, is a behind-the-scenes photo of one of the models, nude, perusing the lunch menu, which kind of personifies how casual the models are about being naked.

About 10 years ago I saw a small advert in the classified section of the local free paper.
It was a model advertising her availability for modeling services.

I gave it to a friend and he went along for 2 sessions at her house using a room converted into a studio.
1st time the BF was downstairs in the house for her safety. There were no explicit shots.
2nd time there were explicit shots.

I think she only charged £60 an hour each time iirc.

I looked her up and she is still in the business:
www.missonline.com/profile/NatashaHimpson

Here is a blog by a photographer that worked with her: http://www.universdartistes.com/2009...b37e94f78bb67f

2 pics attached.

PS - you can also do a google image search for her.

that says it all
 

I was going to chime in with my 2 cents, but "jim914109" said it all pretty well, the same way I would have. In my mind there is no real set rate. If you like out in the 'boon docks' you may find yourself able to get a model for less than that though. For example, if she was not wiling to sign a full model release I would say you could pay her less since the photo would only legally be yours to have, but not to sell/distribute/or otherwise broadcast. If your doing a test shoot that is not too far fetched.

+1 on the 'know their limits' bit. If someone is posing nude, it is important to figure out what they are okay with up front. Erotic 'spread leg' shots, Penthouse style parting of her lips :cool:, or more. Most of the time it's best to just let it happen, don't demand they spread anything if they never said they were willing to ahead of time. Let's just say a colleague of mine more than once has had the MILF soccer mom type in a semi-nude/nude session, where the model got excited enough to rub one out while posing :eek:, spread lips and all. He just stood there and took the pictures.

I'll say this much, I practically would insist on an escort to come with the model, first and foremost for legal reasons (modeling release witness and overall witness in general for the model's comfort. The second thing with the escort is the right personality to help out is invaluable. With the girl I shot, her husband was the one egging her on to really get explicit. If he was not there, the first shoot would have been a tad more tame on that point.

Thanks to all the posters for their input.

another thought
 

I would say most of us are photographers first, respectful, but it only takes nudge to get most of us to go the extra mile. I was essentially asked in the same way. Her husband 'secretly' conveyed to me that his wife wanted me to play with them on the next shoot. I was willing of course, but it did take the order to strip down to put me at ease enough to get naked with a married couple I had met a short time ago. Just an extra nudge to indicate this was all OK with both of them. Half an hour later I was balls-deep inside her while she passionately pleasured his cock with her mouth. And me as the photographer, I was taking time between strokes to operate the remote.

Like jim914109 said, it is kind of funny how NOT unusual a model's naked body is after a few minutes. It's an art object you can order to pose in different ways. If you have a fantasy about ordering a naked woman to do your bidding, well here's your chance :rolleyes: . Obviously not all of us are going to go as far as I or 'wildaboutyou' did. But on the first shoot, when she first came out after changing into a robe, she made no effort to close the robe, leaving her perfect shaved pussy in full view. Over the next few hours it was less about that and more about where I wanted to see her pussy in the shot (or not).

I guess what I am trying to say in the end is some photographers will go to the next level, but explicit verbal permission is what does it, for me at least. I don't operate on innuendo. Like he initially messaged to me, we want to get a picture of her sucking several dicks at once, and we would like you to be one of those dicks. It's not subtle, but it was clear, and arguably turned out well for me in the end.

If you want to go that route, best place to look is a website called ModelMayhem[dot]com. It's searchable by geographic area and the model profile usually states whether they are willing to work with newbies, their chaperone policies and most will give an idea of rates and compensation for travel time/expense. Some very good and very experienced models say they are willing to work with newbies (haven't tested this yet), but I'll give it a try in the summer when the weather is better and I can shoot outdoors.

I will say I have better luck on Craigslist, Model Mayhem usually means 1/3 models you get to shoot with you will ever show up in the first place.

And, you really have to watch out. As I said, I never took the lead and told my model to pose in some way she didn't like, or finger-fuck herself while I took pictures, let alone any of the rest. I know more than a few 'reputable' photographers in my area that have tried to get models old enough to pose but not to drink, to share some wine and start hitting on them, getting them to go that one step more. That's creepy.

If she is the one that is turned on and wants to go to the next level, then it will happen. If not, better to part as friends instead of making her think she was a glass of wine away from getting r@p3d. If I'm fucking a model, I want her to be smiling or moaning while I do it, not drunk and conflicted. I want her reaching back and grabbing my arm to signal to me to start pounding harder :cool: .

Glad to see my story is drawing some attention. If I have any new good stories to tell soon I'll add them over time into this thread. If I am lucky, I may even put a few pictures up too (pending approval).

Craig's List
 

Mastertang - I've tried looking on Craig'slist and haven't been able to find a section with a listing of models, although I know it existed at one time. Is the model listing section still there and I'm just not finding it because I'm looking in the wrong place? I thought I had heard that they had stopped accepting "sexually oriented" listings after several incidents.

I agree that you'll have better success with a Craig'slist model, as ModelMayhem does have a lot of flaky newbie model-wannabe's; newbies are easy to spot - I just ignore them. I'm fairly familiar with the work of a very large number of experienced models, some of whom travel and book shoots in an area, and some of whom I'm close enough to geographically to drive to for a shoot. The real pros are unlikely to flake, and they are very comfortable nude in front of the camera. Meantime, I'm looking for opportunities to do outdoor shoots.

Mainly there is no specific niche in CL for model recruiting. I tend to advertise/find models in the tv/film/video or Gigs--> talent sections. Things tend to be pretty straightforward, you'll see s 'fetish shoot' or 'adult models needed'. I suppose it is a fine line to walk, but as long as it's honest they let it go. If you start getting graphic or suggestive in the description section, I'm sure they'll shut you down.

I got about 15 responses within a day on my first ad, many from ModelMayhem girls (before I was a member myself). The ones I end up working with are the ones actively interested in what I am trying to do. Ones that don't show much interest in the preliminary planning may not be interested in showing up at all when the time comes.

Thanks
 

Thanks Mastertang - this is very helpful.

another great night
 

So, I figured I'd continue in my existing thread since the story remains the same. I have hung out with the model and her husband a few times, each time we usually end up fucking. Our recent meeting was specifically for that purpose. We walked into the bedroom, he at her front and me behind. They kissed as he began removing her top, exposing her pert tits while I stuck my hands in her sweatpants and pulled then down to the ground, leaving me at eye level with her beautiful ass. I gently pulled down her white panties, and began to rub her pussy as she made out with her husband.

We all moved to the bed as I ended up at her head on one end of the bed, her husband down at the other end, and he immediatetely began to eat her pussy as I kissed and licked around her nipples. Though they were already hard, my gentle rubbing made them all the more tense. After eating out her pussy for several minutes, he came up to my end and pulled his cock out, which she instantly took into her mouth. As she took care of him, she used her free hand to grab my cock and bring me close to blowing my load right there. BTW, I was taking pictures on and off, and in this instance I had to peel her fingers off my shaft before I lost it completely.

Then, I figured I'd get down and have myself a taste of that juicy pussy. There was a time when I approached her gently, but we were beyond that now. I had been with her enough times to know how hard is just right, or how she likes to be taken. I got down to her legs, and flung them apart, and then practically face planted into the juicy folds between her thighs. I spent the next few minutes tongue-fucking her hole and running my hands all over the tender folds of flesh, occasionally probing her moistened vaginal walls with my fingers.

She and her husband re-positioned themselves, preparing to go doggy-style, she grabbed my cock and took me in her mouth as he began to pound her from behind. She had to jerk me off by hand when she couldn't multitask any more (wasn't a standard spit roast position we were in).

Her husband had to take a breather, and she motioned me behind her. My cock was harder than it has ever been, as I guided my shaft inside her there was no inch of me that was soft. Her tight pussy was so warm and soft against my cock that I had to stop and push my cock in all the way to the point I was not being as stimulated. I would then pull back out and resume as I brought myself back from the edge. I was doing pretty well up to the point she started meeting my thrusts with her movements, practically fucking me, or fucking me back I guess you could say.

And that's all I could take. I pulled my cock out, rested the head of my cock between her ass cheeks, and proceeded to decorate her 'tramp stamp' with two days of saved up cum. My jizz was thick and white like frosting. It pooled in the small of her back, and some ran down between the cheeks of her ass, and more of the load ran down her side and landed on the bedspread. It took several paper towels to clean it up so that her husband could finish her off. He's more of a distance shooter, so his load just got on her hair and body, but not a lot to see.

Hope you enjoy this episode. If luck is on my side there will be an all-day fuck-fest soon, so I should have plenty of good stories from that coming up.

A follow up. I have started a new thread that is waiting to be approved, concerning recent developments :cool: . . Anyway, below should be a picture link to our first threesome (I'm on the left, holding the remote trigger :D ).

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https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/pict...ctureid=376175

I respect the spirit of the rules, however in this case the female adult video performer in question would prefer to have people follow her on social networks, she would like to be well-known. I understand her name in porn is not as famous as "Sasha G." or "Jenna J." or "Ron J.", but in no way did I intend to violate the spirit of the rule. I actually posted this with her explicit permission. Also, I specifically explained how to find her on twi##er so people did not inadvertently follow someone with a similar name. In any case, my apologies to the mods, and if I incur the wrath of some permanent ban then so be it, I'll just pack up and go elsewhere.