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So good news and bad news:
Good News 1. The ratio here is good. I would say about 50/50 2. About 1/2 of the women are topless or naked Bad News 1. Photogs are dealt with EXTREME PREJUDICE Verdict is that the view is really nice and I’m glad I’m here, but I won’t be able to take pics. |
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Just curious what you saw happen to the photogs to cause you to say that. |
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this video worth watching
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A couple of ladies from Cardiff.
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Naked in STL.
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WNBR St-Louis 2022 - KoneHead rear cam...
You may find something interesting... =>> flickr.com/photos/153573724@N04/albums/72177720300995504 |
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However, any photogs who were not part of the ride were hindered from taking photos with extreme prejudice. |
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cocofiji's Fremont sets were at least 2 weeks after the Solstice parades: flickr.com/photos/cocofiji/albums/72157682644935794 Antwone's sets came out a week or two after the event, when they didn't come out years afterward. The point is, it's still very early. Not photos, but relatedly, posted this morning, a very nice 7.5-minute video of the starting location taken by a guy who was not part of the ride: youtube.com/watch?v=60V_0obcbHI |
The Portland WNBR is probably the best WNBR in the world but has the least amount of coverage.
When I went in 2016 it was awesome and really fun but anyone with a camera or cellphone out would get verbally harassed even though it's right in the middle of a busy public park with some regular bystanders who didn't even know the event was happening. I don't want it to end up like all the lame UK rides with 10000 photographers for every 1 naked girl though. Next year when I go I'll just be naked and mix in with the crowd...with my camera out lol |
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The Portland WNBR is notorious for being anti-photographer. The ones who seem to be ok with being photographed are in the minority by far. Most of the ride occurs at twilight or after dark, the photos you see of afternoon pre-gamers are the few bold enough to appear nude in public and, sure, I guess they're more likely to pose for pics. This was also a year of poor showings in London and Brighton, and there is the ongoing trend of these pictures being circulated online for years after the ride takes place, means women are less likely to participate in general. Or at least that's the feedback I've heard from them.
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the portland ride is not anti-photographer. there are plenty of ways you can film the crowd without getting harassed. personally i would suggest bringing a bike and taking your clothes off - be a part of the party and you're just another person having fun documenting the experience. many, if not most, of the riders are taking pics of themselves and other people throughout the event. you can walk around with your phone out (get an app that turns your screen black while recording and you can be pretty DL about this), you can attach a go-pro to your bike and walk it through the crowd or just chain it up somewhere with a lot of foot traffic.
what if you want to keep your clothes on, and bring a camera with a huge lens? well, maybe some people will give you a hard time... but if you are taking people's pictures with a camera like that, while not being vulnerable yourself, and not taking part in the event, and not asking for permission, i can see why people would take exception - let's say you're at the park one day, fully clothed, just hanging out with friends. do you want some random stranger with professional camera equipment following you around and taking your picture without permission? it's easy to imagine that you wouldn't want that (i sure wouldn't), even if you were wearing all your clothes. add nudity to the equation and i think it's only fair that people expect a little bit of common courtesy. the solution is simple - before shoving your zoom lens in somebody's genitals, ASK for permission. i mean, duh. "can i take your picture?" the worst they can do is say no. this is just common sense. this is literally the way that antwone gets most of his pics. he walks up to a hot girl or group of girls, and he asks them. if they say no, he moves on. another easy solution for people with huge cameras, is to use the zoom from far enough away from the crowd that you aren't bothering them. i've seen new cameras that can zoom in on shit from like a mile away. keep your distance and nobody will care. i've seen plenty of guys taking pics this way. i would expect people here know better than to bring a zoom lens to the nude beach and walk directly up to people and start taking their pictures from 10 feet away without permission. which is essentially what these dudes are doing at WNBR. it's just rude behavior (even though i appreciate the results). ALL OF THAT SAID, i would not expect a huge bounty from this year's ride. usually the pre-party starts at 5 or 6, this year it started at 8. it also happened at the end of july instead of right after the solstice, meaning the sun set earlier that day. by the time the crowd started getting large, it was already dark enough that getting good pics with cheap equipment was pretty tough. also, antwone wasn't there, and he always had the best pics. |
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When the wnbr first started in 2004 in my hometown of vancouver the first couple of years most of the women were militant about people not taking their photos. People with cameras reminded them that it is legal (in canada) to take pictures of people in public. Most of these women did not ride again. One year two guys and a gal left the pre-ride complaining about the photographers and i yelled -good riddance we do not need you anyway. I mean (and this has been remarked on this site before) --u are naked in public what the hell do you expect.
My suggestion would be to just get naked and they will loosen up---also you might just find it very fun. Vancouver does not get many repeat women but from the rides I have been to (which is 14 out of 18 rides) most women on the ride were ok with being photographed with the odd exception. We did have one ride though where a person with mental problems was trying to smash peoples cameras at the pre-ride body painting--but the police took care of him. Actually (sorry to ramble) it was kind of funny in some of the earliest rides there was one or two women that would complain to the police with the expectation that people taking pictures would be arrested. They were in for a rude surprise:D |
portland and vancouver are about exactly the same size, population wise, yet i think most would agree that portland has a much larger wnbr and also produces much better photography. so i'm not sure "it's technically legal to creep the girls out so they don't come back" is a great strategy.
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I did not mean to give the impression that I think it's a strategy or funny to creep out any women participants. This does happen sometimes and is unfortunate. The women I was referring to would like canvas the whole area verbally berating photographers that were like 30-40 feet away from them. They were just pissed that someone took their picture without unrequired permission-naked or not. Again I do not want to make anyone uncomfotable and I do keep somewhat of a distance (I mean who doesn't have a zoom lens today) but this is a ride to raise awareness..... |
sorry, seems i kinda misunderstood you :)
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WNBR Boston is this Saturday, August 13. It's in the evening. They'll announce the starting location tomorrow. There are usually about 200 people.
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It'll start at North Point Park. They gather at 7:30pm and leave at 8pm. Should be excellent weather! If you're in the Boston area, you should check it out... |
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They "pulled a Chicago" (where you meet at one place and are directed to the "real" starting point) and moved the starting point about 15 minutes before the event began, probably to limit onlookers. They moved from North Point Park to Paul Revere Park. There were ~150 people in total, but only about 5-10 totally naked girls. One of the girls was extremely hot. She appears in that youtube at around 0:27 on the left side, standing by her bike. She had a really cute face, nice boobs, a fine ass as you can see, and a fully shaved pussy. A different girl's naked butt is attached. |
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Yeah, I saw that guy - he had a very fancy camera and she was posing for him quite a bit! Do you think those pictures will ever see the light of day? Maybe on OF or censored on insta? |
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Cake and eat it too?
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I believe that participants are aware of the possibility of nude pictures emerging, but trying to avoid the extremes does not seem that unreasonable. It seems to me that we are the ones who have eaten all the wnbr cake lately due to attitudes like this. If you treat women like this, dont be surprised the only ones that remain are the ones not caring beting treated that way, i.e., porn/OF. |
Whatever happened to Antwone? I notice his Flickr has been severely culled and his website is gone. He was a great source for Portland WNBR in the past.
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The things which put off many women: 1 - being mobbed by (clothed) "leering" photographers coming up so close to their naked vulnerable bodies, often simply focussing on their genitals. 2 - photos being edited/cropped to accentuate female sexual parts close-up and then ending up on porn sites like this. Many of the women are pleased to see themselves on non-porn sites but not porn sites. They don't think of themselves as strippers or porn models. We might think that many women are naieve to imagine that 1 and 2 won't happen. But see the stories of how the number of naked women has declined over the years, including "whatever happened to (eg Barclays Librarian)" - maybe they learned the hard way. Also see the many stories on this site of inconsistent wives and girlfriends indifferent/happy to show off one day but prudish the next - women eh!. Are they naieve, inconsistent, inscrutable? - probably. But unreasonable? - I don't have a right to see anyone naked. But I am grateful when I get a chance to see! Sites like this are killing the goose that lays the golden eggs - but we love it and can't get enough! |
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While I'd rather see pictures than all these conversations, I know the talk is just part of the thread, like baseball fans sitting around during Hot Stove season, because when there's no action, the void must be filled somehow. I feel compelled to comment on the last post where it is written that sites like this are killing the goose that lays the golden egg. I agree that women doing the WNBR are mostly out there for fun. I'm a pretty serious cyclist and know two women who have done Fremont. I've also spoken to several other cyclists who are intrigued by it, but cite many of your listed reasons as why they don't do it. The posing nude, erotica, porn thing has changed a lot in recent years. Have you noticed most of the hardcore photos on the forum are older? Women just don't feel as free to enjoy casual sex with Covid, Monkey Pox and the criminalization of abortion. The information age has curbed sexual spontaneity. A sexy picture sent to a boyfriend can cost someone a career. Orgies? Threesomes? They still happen, I guess, but there's less and less photo evidence. Many younger women who do nude and hardcore photos now want to be paid for it. I for one, am unimpressed by their stupid, Aegah,
A-ooga whatever...the eye rolling, slack mouth faces, colored hair, cosplay and cell phones in hand. They won't get any money from me. As for sites like this killing anything, OCC is pretty respectful. On many porn sites, maybe even most, the comments and post titles are horrific. You see pictures gleaned off of some young girl's social media or posted by an ex, or even husbands who put their unknowing wives out there...and there's text calling them filthy names. That's the mild stuff. There are comments calling for brutal sexual assault of women who only had their fully clothed portrait downloaded off the website where they work...and those pictures are captioned by every sick thing jerks can dream up. When faced with that, it's amazing there are any women willing to pose or do WNBR at all. Women get a lot more respect at OCC than any other website I've seen. That's why I play here. The golden goose is being killed by life hating, twisted minds that see women as things to abuse and damage, not as beautiful humans to delight in. Enjoy all of this while you can. There will always be erotica, but like everything else, it's being slowly ruined by "me first" trash without respect, empathy or soul. |
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...With all that being said...I still can not believe the "non-footage" we have of Portland. I mean, after a few days I was still hopeful, but now I am disappointed that this is it for the BIGGEST RIDE IN THE WORLD. I also have regret because last minute I canceled my cross country trip to Portland for the ride. Lesson learned. I read the post about the dressed photographers being told to go but, were there no riders with cams on their bikes :confused: ? *sighs* Well, we still have Philly to look forward to (fingers crossed).
In the meantime, here is Cape Town youtube.com/watch?v=35UYZ3jjGPQ[/url] youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2tvoywUWU&t=115s[/url] |
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Some early returns from Cambridge...
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Finally some Portland content
Audreality always does a good job documenting the Portland ride.
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Boston 2022: flickr.com/photos/26867457@N04/ Chelmsford 2022: flickr.com/photos/51205467@N04/ Cambridge 2022: flickr.com/photos/naturist1960/ London 2022: flickr.com/photos/192887703@N03/albums/72177720300513288 Philly 2019: flickr.com/photos/perspective/albums/72157710551865877 |
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It was a beautiful day for a bike ride in Philly yesterday, and folks came out in force! There were easily more than 1,000 people there -- maybe more than 2,000. Ratio of men to women was perhaps 2-to-1, but there were plenty of ladies there -- short, tall, skinny, chubby, black, white, a few Asian, young, older, big tits, little tits, hairy bush, shaved.
The majority of women went topless, but there were plenty that went fully nude. with or without paint. Atmosphere was fun and friendly, both at the painting party beforehand and during the ride itself. The rule at the painting party was that you had to ask permission to take photos, and many people were doing so, and many permissions were granted. In some cases, women said no, and photographers moved on. During the ride itself, both participants and onlookers were taking many, many photos, so some will surely emerge. After the ride there was a naked afterparty with dancing into the night at a club downtown. Many participants went, including many of the younger and cuter ones, and few people put their clothes back on (in fact, some took more off). In some cases, things got a little steamy on the dancefloor. But no one was taking pictures there. Here is a Flickr album I found (not mine) - flickr.com/photos/62619569@N00/ |
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