Originally Posted by rudolfm (Post 3337713)

Both seem comparable, Kristall being somewhat bigger. I found no guest numbers. The Kristall has 900 rest loungers which are often all taken.
If you can then visit both, else I reccomend Kristall.

FYI, Vabali house rules, copied from their website:
The sauna facility is not an institution of free body culture. For this reason, we ask you to dress in a sauna towel or bathrobe in the corridors of the changing rooms, after the sauna session and the cool-down phase.

And Kristall for comparison:
Unsere Therme ist generell immer Textilfrei zu benutzen.
Am Mittwoch können Sie wahlweise mit oder ohne Textilien schwimmen oder Sonntag von 09- 17.30 Uhr
Translation:
In general, our spa is always be used textile-free.
On Wednesday you can choose to swim with or without textiles or on Sunday from 9 a.m. to 5.30 p.m.

Go it?

Originally Posted by Jtheman (Post 3337466)

Ive been to several saunas in Germany mostly smaller ones since they are typically cheaper and I go for the sauna and health benefits and not so much to look at the women. I did however go to E in Munich, and it was a whole new level of sauna experience. It did cost me over 100 euros by the time I left though making it the most expensive sauna day I ever had.

It had the youngest crowd that I ever saw at a sauna and the friendliest. I was there from opening to closing and without any effort, women engaged me in conversation as well as men. At around dinner time, i sat at the swim up bar and heard a couple guys talking American english, they were gay, but I started conversation and about 15 minutes in, 2 german girls in their 20s swim up beside me and order drinks. I casually asked of they spoke english and one of them did. Not sure how it got to this point, but I asked her since I was by myself and couldn’t speak german, if I could hang out with them and if she could translate for me. She accepted and I was with them for the next 4 hours until they closed. It was amazing how open they were with their nudity in front of me. They would sit spread legged with bare pussy exposed. I’d be completely naked with my little cock on full view but completely natural with nothing sexual between us (I didn’t try because I’m married and didn’t want to scared them away as I was just enjoying the moment and friendship). They shared their food that they brought from home with me and I bought them a couple beers.

About the sauna in general: it is huge. As i was leaving I found a downstairs section that I didn’t know existed. There are aufgaus sessions constantly at different locations around the sauna so if you miss one pr if it is too full, you have another one in another sauna starting about 10-15 minutes later. There is a 4 beer/alcohol drink max on your band. I only drink water and juice because I like the really hot saunas and don’t want to risk any dehydration or medical issue where I can’t speak the language,but I maxed out the beers for the ladies. There is a viking themed sauna in the outside area that is really hot and that a super elevated “throne” for a daring person. I recommend that.


I have read that you should only do 3-4 sauna sessions a day, and that is what I usually do at a smaller sauna, but this place was so big and expensive that I wanted to get my monies worth so I probably did about 10 sessions. Also I was probably in the pools for several hours as well. Not sure if that was overdoing it, but I felt great the next day.

Originally Posted by Jtheman (Post 3337998)

I went on a Friday in late winter. It was not a holiday, but it could have been a spring break or something. There were too many young women to count. There were just very many people in general, even the water park side appeared to be busy. I payed online in advance. Glad I did or there would have been a queue to get in.

There were foreign men like me and the gay dudes, but I didn’t encounter any women that only spoke english. I also didn’t approach any couples to start a conversation. Everyone looked like they were naturally supposed to be there so I personally didn’t see or notice any first time shyness. I wasn’t looking for this aspect either.

Originally Posted by Jtheman (Post 3338041)

There were many people that stayed nude and I didn’t see anyone being warned, from what I remember it was mostly older men though. There were a few women that were nude on their loungers. And there was no enforcement of how long you stayed nude after a sauna and cool down shower. I would walk completely nude after a sauna and shower to the cold plunge pool which was a distance away in some cases and then walk back to my towel and robe.

Originally Posted by sebsationally (Post 3337878)

What about the age in Kristall, and number of foreign girls? I'm only really into the younger girls, and find the tourists who aren't used to the naked thing most exciting. Also, have you seen any interesting situations during the changeover from clothed to nude at 5:30 on sunday? Any shy girls that reluctantly ended up baring all?

Originally Posted by rudolfm (Post 3338058)

Kristall is all ages. But still enough younger. On nude days you will have relaxed people, so little shyness. On CO days you will see young girls in bikinis first looking, then later some will take the dare and get topless or nude. Your notion of being there sundays when the transition happens is interesting. I haven't seen that, but I will try it.
I am into either the ladies showing off relaxed, or on CO days the bikini girls staring at my dick 😁.

Tourists are mostly Eastern European and not shy. For shy tourists, Vabali would be a better bet. But the shy ones there will mostly wear robes.

A note to Munich, the E holds about 5000, the K and V in Berlin under 1000. Simple math says you will see lots in the E.

Originally Posted by smisek4122 (Post 3338526)

Here in the Czech Republic it is common for public swimming pools to have open lockers with a few cubicles to the side walls. Most people change in the open areas in front of their lockers. People are polite and keep their eyes forward but often you have men, women and children changing in front of each other. Just not a big deal here as is being naked at lakes during the summer. Oh and saunas are naked and often have unisex days each week.