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smaug007 03-29-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Klondike (Post 525980)
Xingu is the name of the river that runs north to south into the region. Presumably, all of the various "Xingu" tribes live along the river.

Klondike

I found this site with some more pictures of the tribe: http://www.wehaitians.com/amazon%20indians%20honor%20an%20intrepid%20spirit. html

delay 03-29-2009 03:08 PM

these are very beautiful pictures. I find them nice to look at, but the exocitification of the women does not, for me, add any special excitement. Obviously they are being photographed as part of a public event, and one would hope that they are getting compensated for allowing the ceremony to be photographed and watched by tourists. / But it is completely ridiculous and demeaning to think that this is some kind of elaborate strip show being put on for the sake of American and European voyeurs. That they even involve little kids to make it seem more "real"? Time to break out of the voyeur bubble: There is more meaning to life than unexpected nakedness! These photographs are obviously of real traditional ceremonies, and it is very well studied and documented that they involved nudity. Note that there are plenty of nude men as well. And the "shaved" pussies? The men also don't have pubic hair! Not every people has the same abundance of body hair, and there are also traditional methods of hair removal practiced in all kinds of places. Thanks for the post.

Klondike 03-29-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by delay (Post 527036)
these are very beautiful pictures. I find them nice to look at, but the exocitification of the women does not, for me, add any special excitement. Obviously they are being photographed as part of a public event, and one would hope that they are getting compensated for allowing the ceremony to be photographed and watched by tourists. / But it is completely ridiculous and demeaning to think that this is some kind of elaborate strip show being put on for the sake of American and European voyeurs. That they even involve little kids to make it seem more "real"? Time to break out of the voyeur bubble: There is more meaning to life than unexpected nakedness! These photographs are obviously of real traditional ceremonies, and it is very well studied and documented that they involved nudity. Note that there are plenty of nude men as well. And the "shaved" pussies? The men also don't have pubic hair! Not every people has the same abundance of body hair, and there are also traditional methods of hair removal practiced in all kinds of places. Thanks for the post.

Please note that my comments were in reply to Gringuito's post. I have absolutely no idea how much of this is "show" and how much is "real", But based on his comments, it appeared to be more the former than the latter. Consider that he mentioned these taking place near Iquitos, Peru. This is very far away from the upper Amazon basin of Brazil where the real Xingu indians live. Should we assume that a small band of Xingus have taken up residence in Peru and are continuing their traditions there? If not, then we don't appear to have a "real" ceremony but something else. And if its something else, what is it and why? But again - this is just based on Gringuito's post.
He also mentioned BTW that the girls have tan lines which suggests that they do not dress like this every day,and that the dances are advertized to tourists.

Also, posted here is possibly a mix, I believe, of real ceremonies and those singled out by gringuito (who didn't say which pics he was refering to) as taking place in Peru. I don't know which is which, and I don't see a lot of differences among the pics other than the presence of tourists and more western paraphenalia in some.

Klondike

Klondike 03-29-2009 03:57 PM

one correction to the above - the Xingus are from the lower, not upper amazon basin of Brazil.

Also, my comment about the kiddies was made half in jest. Thats because at the time I wrote it I was also somewhat skeptical of what qrinquito said. If you reread it, the context in which that sentence was written should become more clear.

Klondike

consulate 03-29-2009 07:21 PM

GEE WHIZ
 
TALK ABOUT CAMEL TOES!!!

Klythez 03-30-2009 04:19 AM

Excellent pictures. Thanks! A couple of people mentioned the lack of pubic hair. The Amazon Indians pluck the hair from their eyebrows as well as from their pubic region to keep the parasites from nesting there. This I read in a National Geographic article some years back. Yes, I said "pluck".

Klondike 03-30-2009 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Klythez (Post 527252)
Excellent pictures. Thanks! A couple of people mentioned the lack of pubic hair. The Amazon Indians pluck the hair from their eyebrows as well as from their pubic region to keep the parasites from nesting there. This I read in a National Geographic article some years back. Yes, I said "pluck".

so are they "self pluckers", or are there pluckers and pluckees?

KLondike

Fango 03-30-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Klondike (Post 527253)
so are they "self pluckers", or are there pluckers and pluckees?

KLondike

And, furthermore, are there motherpluckers? :D

Fango

Klondike 03-30-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fango44 (Post 527345)
And, furthermore, are there motherpluckers? :D

Fango

:D

undoubtedly....

Klythez 03-30-2009 10:05 PM

Pluckers, pluckees, motherpluckers, I'll bet it hurts like the dickens to pluck the pubic hair out!


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