I remember the film "After Life" (2009) where Ricci does more than appear in her underwear...she goes nude.

Now there was a lot of hype about this film, and wild exaggerations about Ricci "spending half the film naked"...when in fact her nude screen time was about 6 minutes total. And carefully filmed-- her with a leg raised, under a sheet, turned to the side, no full frontals...

I bring it up because a lot the time these claims---nude and underwear-- are wildly inflated. One has to take them with a grain of salt.

I do agree though about the actors you mention...that history is well established.

I have After Life on DVD. It was a rather disappointing film, but I didn't buy it for the story. I also have Black Snake Moan, and Anything Else. Two of Ricci's best underwear films. The underwear scenes do not disappoint in Black Snake Moan, but I think she looked her best in Anything Else. Jessica Alba's best scene was in Fantastic 4, and Scarlett Johansson's best underwear scene was in The Nanny Diaries. Lost in Translation is more famous, but it's not nearly as good.

On a related issue, I always find it amusing when an actor states (or someone agrees) that nude and underwear scenes should only be included in a project if they're necessary or integral to the plot. And you see a lot of this.

I have to laugh at that because in almost all cases, it's a written script-- an artistic choice. In a written script, very few things are absolute and necessary when it comes to clothing.

An example I like to use is a scene that takes place on a beach in summer. The actors are talking. They could be in bathing suits, the girl in a skimpy bikini. Or she could be wearing shorts. Or a light summer dress. The girl could be nude. Is there a "right" choice here? a "necessary" one? and does it have to be "necessary"? who says so? it's an artistic choice by the film maker.

Or take a scene where a couple is on the run. They are at a motel. They have just woken up and believe the police will be there any minute. So they start scrambling. Now at this point, what is 'necessary" to move the plot forward? the girl could scramble out of bed in her undies...or she could be nude. Or wearing a pair of sweats. Which choice is logical and likely? well, all of them as it turns out. Or the film maker could show the couple waking up, covered by a sheet, and then cut to the outside as they run dressed to their car. An artistic choice.

Perhaps one of the most famous examples of this is the underwear scene at the end of "Alien" (1979). Sigourney Weaver's character of Ripley strips down to skimpy panties and tank top in preparation for hyper sleep, which we have seen established at the start of the movie. Yet this is probably one of the most controversial underwear scenes in movie history, with critics calling it "sexist" and "not necessary to move the plot forward"

So I always call bullsh** when an actor or others get up on their virtue signaling high horse and say stuff like this.

There was no controversy over the Alien scene when it first came out. In fact, it was strange not to have a nude scene in an R rated film in 1979. Bra and panty scenes were more common in PG rated films.

Ha! I know what you mean about not buying the DVD for the movie.

Although I have to say I have not purchased an actual DVD physical copy in years.

I must have a library of almost 500 movies on DVD in various formats-- standard and blu ray-- but I find that I don't often spin up a disc anymore. Just too lazy I guess. Sometimes I want to see a certain scene for whatever reason-- I can usually find that on youtube.

Other times I'll just go to Amazon and spend the $2.99 to rent a movie I already have because I don't want to fuss with getting the movie and throwing it on the DVD player...again, how lazy is that?

(guilty as charged) :)

Well I agree with that...it was only years later when the culture changed and political correctness and virtue signaling set in that the controversy began.

Remember the flap over the "Star Trek Into Darkness" (2013) underwear scene with actor Alice Eve? the director actually APOLOGIZED- publicly- for including an underwear scene.

Likewise, in "Return of the Living Dead" (1985) Linnea Quigley (arguably the first post modern scream queen of nudity along with Barbara Crampton) gets nude in a cemetery. We all remember her nude dance on the burial vault with fondness I'm sure :)

Anyway, in the commentary on the DVD release, the director second guesses his artistic choice, and states for the sake of "fairness" he should have had one of the male characters undress as well.

Applying current standards and views and retro fitting them to past events is nothing new I guess.

I have stacks of DVDs that I bought just for a 2 minute scene here, or a 5 minute scene there...and not because I'm a film buff. Before the internet, one of the main reasons you went to the movies was for the nudity. The first question your friends asked if you saw a film they hadn't was; "Was there any nudity?"

The Star Trek director should have apologized for making that entire film. The Alice Eve underwear scene was the only good thing in it. The nudity in Return of the Living Dead made Linnea Quigley's career, and we didn't even know she wore a modesty patch. Everyone thought she'd shaved off all of her pubic hair, which was unheard of at the time. The Barbara Crampton Reanimator full frontal scene was incredible. I saw that film when it first came out, and the entire theater gasped when they put the severed head between her legs. Barbara Crampton sarcastically refers to that as "her mother's favorite scene".
The actor who played the severed head caught flak from his wife over it, too. According to Barbara Crampton, she turned to him during the screening and said with disgust "How could you?" They sure don't make 'em like that anymore.

Well this is an old trick TV trick that comes very close to the definition of "costume underwear"--- full coverage panties worn OVER pantyhose--- the illusion that you're seeing something illicit when you're really not.

So I guess the argument that could be made is that the girl is not REALLY showing her undies-- that's concealed under the "costume underwear"...

You saw a lot of this on television back in the day-- Three's Company", a few times on "Laverne & Shirley", the old "Logan's Run tv show..."Star Trek" TOS of course. ... and we still see it used today.

Im sure when the cheque book is opened wide enough the artistic necessity is soon forgotten . These people are wh*r*s for money and fame and the veil of integrity is soon dropped when there enough zeros involved . Halle Berry for example refused to ever go topless in any film ever , she is a serious actor and doesnt want to be known for anything other than her ability to play make believe ..... sure enough in the film swordfish she went topless , with zero artistic merit but for a nice little bonus of $500,000 . Not bad for 2 seconds work .
I suspect that this then earned the film way way more than was paid thanks to the `` shock value ``
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But either way its about presentaton .
A beach .... if someones hanging around for the day then they arnt likely to be in a summer dress for the duration . The clothes or lack of tell there own narration . Popping to chat to someone ? summer dress , activity on the beach ? appropriate clothing , sweating it out for hours in the sun .... as little as possible . Its framing and making a story convincing . An awful film called Summer Lovers with Daryl Hannah uses this to its best effect .

They did it in movies, too. Susan Sarandon wore pantyhose under her panties in most of her scenes in the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Carrie Fisher wore pantyhose in Under The Rainbow (and they weren't even invented in the 1930's). And Heather Thomas wore a full body stocking under her bra and panties in Zapped!

Re-Animator with Jeffery Combs and Barbara Crampton-- a true classic. Combs is an under rated actor who deserves more credit that he usually receives. Sort of like Andrew Robinson. And Crampton was lovely. I also liked her in "From Beyond" (1986) and also starring Combs as well as Ken Foree of "Dawn of the Dead" fame.

Let me ask you...do you remember a Canadian film from the early 80's (?) based maybe on a Lovecraft story as well-- it was about a low level hospital tech who discovers the work of a dead scientist and gets mental powers. However, there's a catch-- his brain become so developed that it actually leaves his skull in the end and grows stalks to get around. I can't remember the title or actors.

I thought it was 1979's "The Demon" but that's another film-- one with some great undie and nudity footage BTW

Thx.

Barbara Crampton is still lovely. Here's a photo of her at 60. Sorry, don't know the name of the film you mentioned. What are the underwear scenes in The Demon? I don't think I've ever seen that one.

Barbara Crampton
 

I think the film is From Beyond 1986

"The Demon" (1979) was a South African (!) production I think.

AKA "Midnight Caller"

It stars Cameron Mitchell and a bleached blond Jennifer Holmes. Typical Halloween rip off that doesn't even try to explain who the evil psycho is or why he is bent on killing people...

Jennifer Holmes is in her house (so Holmes is home so to speak) and wearing a bathrobe and panties when evil guy shows up. She fights him off and runs upstairs and decides to hide in the attic, because that's what almost naked chicks do when being stalked in the 70's I guess. Not complaining, though.

As she climbs up, her robe gets caught and drops to the floor. Oopsie. Now she's in the attic in just her white panties but it's kinda dark and hard to see.

She tries to climb up through the roof but evil guy hears her and runs to the attic. We see breasts as our girl tries to climb through the hole. He grabs her, pulls her back, and then they both fall through the ceiling. Holmes runs in to the bathroom still in just her underpants...because when you have a head start on the killer, it's better to run in to the upstairs bathroom with no exit instead of down the stairs and out of the house...

I have the DVD but it's very old and my DVD player attached to my IMAC won't play it-- so I can't get the best screen grabs. The film is available on YouTube if you want to check it out:

youtube.com/watch?v=f8r1lyoLivs

Two scenes of interest: at the 1hr. 3 minute mark and the 1hr. 25 minute mark.

Jennifer Holmes is 67 now and still around. Most of her credits as an actor are from the 80's. She appeared in a lot of TV shows like The Fall Guy, Misfits of Science, Webster, and Knight Rider. And I'm sure there's gotta be a TJ Hooker episode in there somewhere, because why not?

Screen grabs are not very good-- low quality captures from YouTube.

Thanks but that's not it. It does sound like it though.

"From Beyond" is not a bad flick.

That reminds me, wasn't there a TJ Hooker episode where Shatner's toupee leaves his skull, and grows stalks to get around, too?

I never saw this one, before. Thanks for pointing it out. The girl looks very familiar. I probably saw her in multiple TV shows, and just never realized it.

Amy Acker EUF, from the film; Let's Kill Ward's Wife. Amy was one of the prettiest of the Buffy/Angel girls. He may be a total scumbag, but Joss Wheadon has a good eye for beautiful women.

Kelly LeBrock EUF/Windy Skirt, from the film; The Woman in Red.

Joan Collins EUF-ish/ forced to strip at gunpoint scene, from the film; Fearless Fuzz.

Susanne Benton EUF, from the film; A Boy and His Dog.

Wrestling EUF (GiFs).

Linda Hamilton ENF/EUF from the film; Secret Weapons. Technically, it's an ENF scene, but since she's only nude in the final frame, I think it fits better here. The movie poster is hilarious when you consider the title, and Linda Hamilton's open blouse.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF6563Vnv1k

Hollyoaks - Esther’s bullying storyline part 1

2:20 Esther's dress gets stuck and ripped off during a fashion show and shes left in her bra and panties in front of everyone

3:15 she falls off a scooter in a short skirt and it bunches up and shows everyone the back of her big white cotton knickers

(also may be of interest at 8:20 a prank scares her so much that she wets her pants in front of everyone and mean girl takes a photo/video of the pee stain on her pants)

heres the video of the behind the scenes filming of jessica alba's great euf moment:

vimeo.com/218510768

Start at 2:24

Dress ripped off. I'm not sure what this is from. It may be an ENF, since it looks like her panties are on the way off, too.

it's 2001: A Space Travesty with the great leslie neilsen but not at all a great movie

youtube.com/watch?v=QIfDgKeHyJ0

27:35

it looks like her panties are falling down but its just a badly editted scene because her panties are back up in the next shot.............i think they accidentally slipped down and then didn't bother to do another take..........

EUF publicity still of Heather Thomas from the film; Zapped! I'm convinced that her refusal to do nudity torpedoed her career. She was an okay actress, but let's face it, it was her looks that got her noticed (and she never lost them).

That's funny. I just watched Dracula; Dead and Loving It the other day. Not a great film, but Leslie Nielsen was better than expected as Dracula.

The surprisingly well endowed Amanda Bearse in an EUF scene from the film; Fright Night. I always thought she looked like a young Susan Sarandon at this point in her career.

yeah he really was churning those movies out fast at the time.......but even when the movies not so good, Leslie Nielsen is still fun to watch

Ethel Merman EUF/Upskirts from the film; It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. Her underwear was on display far too often in this film for it to have simply been for comic relief. I think the director had a thing for Ethel.

EUF from the film; Elvira Mistress of the Dark. Elvira puts a spell on the uptight people of her town. The clothes soon come off.

EUF scene from the television show; Bewitched.

EUF scene from the film; The Malibu Bikini Shop.

Marcy's looks were often the butt of Al's jokes on Married...With Children, but I always thought Amanda Bearse was criminally underrated in the looks department.

I think this is from a film called; The Navy Lark, but I could be wrong. I'd have guessed it was from one of the Carry On films, and I've seen it posted elsewhere as; Operation Bullworth.

Dinah Manhoff EUF/dress torn off, from the television show; Soap. These caps are from two different scenes. I believe it was a running gag.

Yes. Her husband had some kind of Phobia about her wearing close.
It was bad luck or something.