More from Sandy Hook
 

First visits, so more pale than tan!

many thanks, were those pics taken recently and anyone know if the crowds have starting hitting sandy hook or lighthouse?

anyone have pics from this year?

NJ guy wants to hang out
 

Let me know if you want some friendly company!!

Follow-up on Post #6
 

Attached are two images that appear to be of the same subjects in post 6, image 2 of this thread.

Blonde has a great arse, I would have a hard on too

Lighthouse beach could be also.:mad:

Back in 2007, when some shoreline existed.

Was this at Lighthouse Beach? Any more of them, the girl on the right side of the pics is amazing.


And seriously, both are going to be closed for 2013, any reports on Lighthouse? I don't see anything off google yet. That would suck big time.

Lighthouse Beach, Long Island New York
 

This is Lighthouse Beach, Long Island New York. The signs is right on the line dividing Lighthouse Beach with Robert Moses State Park. Seems like every year that sign is different due to the tide washing it away.

Holy smoke, what a great series of pics. Does anybody know the story behind them? A guy taking shots of two beautiful women, and clearly, there is a second guy taking shots of the three of them.

Sandy Hook
 

I live about an hour and a half south of Sandy Hook and am a regular. I was wondering how they faired and thought about taking a ride up to see. I guess it is pretty bad if you can't get on the road to the penninsula off of rt 36. I was a Seaside Heights last weekend near the ferris wheel that has become famous for it's destruction.

Sandy Hook
 

The roadway is washed out, the restrooms are torn up and all of the sewer system is full of beach sand everywere in the park. The beaches can be repaired with earth moving equipment, but without sewer drains working they won't open the park. I live about 30 minutes from the hook!:

Lighthouse Beach
 

Hope it isn't a total wash this summer.

CLOTHING OPTIONAL SUNBATHING NO LONGER LEGAL - FIRE ISLAND
 

Sad day for all Lighthouse Beach fans and food for thought for all Gunnison Beach fans. Could very easily happen to Gunnison too ..

The NPS issued a new Directive yesterday 2/5/2013. ..

February 5, 2013
To Whom it May Concern:
Effective immediately, state nudity laws will be enforced at Fire Island National Seashore.
While state laws apply throughout the Seashore, the park will focus its public education and
enforcement efforts of the existing New York State law at the following federally-owned
areas:
o Lighthouse beach, from the western boundary of the park to the western
boundary of Kismet.
o The Sailors Haven tract, from Point O’ Woods to Cherry Grove.
o One half mile on either side of the Barrett Beach lifeguard stand.
o One mile on either side of the Watch Hill lifeguard stand.
o From the Wilderness Visitor Center to the breach at Old Inlet
Public nudity has been prohibited in the State of New York since 1984 under New York State
Penal Code 245.01. Fire Island National Seashore shares concurrent jurisdiction with the
State of New York, which means that state laws can be enforced on federal lands by federal,
state, and local law enforcement officers. Although the National Park Service (NPS) is
focusing its enforcement on the identified areas, the law still applies park-wide, and may be
enforced throughout the park. NPS policies favor consistent enforcement of state laws on
federal lands, and disfavor the designation of clothing optional areas. Public nudity on Fire
Island has resulted in conflicts of use, despite past park management efforts to accommodate
clothing optional recreation. On Lighthouse beach in particular, the dense visitation invited
by the previously-designated “clothing optional beach” presented not only a visitor use
conflict, but created a public safety hazard due to the lack of adequate facilities for trash and
human waste, in addition to the heavy recreation on a non-lifeguarded beach. Additionally,
Hurricane Sandy leveled the dunes in this area, which increases the visibility of the beach
from other public use areas. The sandy overwash areas left by the storm created added habitat
for sensitive species in the area. Finally, park employees have observed an increase in
criminal activity in the designated clothing-optional areas, but have been unable to
appropriately manage this activity despite significant attempts at education and enforcement.
Violation of this law is a class B federal misdemeanor, and can result in fines of up to $5,000
and up to six months imprisonment.

That Sucks
 

We used to frequent LHB a lot in the summer until about 10 years ago. It was never really crowded there, only on some weekends and July 4th or Memorial day weekend. The lack of facilities has always been an issue as it's quite a hike to Robert Moses Beach next door where you park. There is increased pressure as well from the conservation groups to highly restrict access to areas where "threatened" or "endangered" species are found and there are more than a few in the area. I guess we can now add Nudists to the list. There also have been a drowning or two over the years. Sandy Hook has facilities so my guess is unless there's a public outcry it should be safe there.

The Beach had an aura about it. When you spent the day there it felt like an eight hour vacation.

I had a feeling they could use this as an excuse to shut the beach down. I didn't think they would because of the possible backlash. Lets see what happens now....:(

Before and After Photo - Dune completely gone
 

Attached are two photos basically (within 100 feet). The amount of erosion caused by Hurricane Sandy is evident. The large dune is completely gone.

they're going to use sandy as an excuse to shut it down. the dunes are gone, so the naked bodies won't be hidden from sensitive eyes. this is part of the foundation for changing the policy.

the other reason is that, no matter how much we tried to police it, a persistent group of losers would sneak into the dunes to take a shit or jerk-off. unfortunately, you don't need many of these to raise a case for prohibiting the nudity that has been present on the beach since the 60s.

and don't expect gunnison beach at sandy hook to be open this year either. the damage is going to keep the beach closed for some time. unfortunately, no humans on the beach means that nesting seabirds will have the run of it instead of hiding in the dunes as they usually do to avoid human contact. since this is a protected area, if the birds get the beach, the people will not. this info comes from a friend-of-a-friend that was on a cleanup crew at sandy hook recently. the rangers were discussing this exact scenario.

so those of us that enjoy the lighthouse and gunnison will have to keep our pants on this summer, and maybe forever.

Damn. That's a nasty blow. :(

gunny faves
 

i hope its open

Those are good questions, but here are some of the differences I see between the two beaches:

1. Gunnison is used by literally thousands of nude beach goers on a good summer day. Not sure about Lighthouse Beach, but I always thought it was significantly less.

2. Gunnison has a bathroom and shower area that is fairly close to the beach. It's only a little bit of a walk and it's mainly due to the fact that Gunnison has so much distance from the dunes to the shoreline. As a result, I don't think I've ever seen someone try to vacate their bowels in the dunes.

3. It seems to me like over-the-top sexual behavior at Gunnison has gone down dramatically over the years. I haven't seen any lewd behavior there in years. And I don't think I ever saw any of that kind of behavior in the dunes.

4. Gunnison has two to three lifeguard stations on the nude portion of the beach throughout the summer.

5. Gunnison is so isolated from the roadway that there is literally no chance that someone is going to accidentally see a nude beachgoer no matter how much erosion the beach has experienced due to the recent storm.

6. There is plenty of parking for Gunnison. While the main lot fills up relatively quickly, there is an overflow lot about 1/4 mile down the road that people can park at.

The wildcard could be how the rangers and park service actually feel about Gunnison. From what I can see, it's not a problem beach for them in that it seems to be very self maintaining. I also think that beachgoers generate a huge amount of income for Sandy Hook National Seashore because of all the people paying the $15 daily visitor pass for cars. It seems like they would be cutting their own throats to cut off that funding.

every one of your points about gunnison is spot-on.

lighthouse beach is REALLY popular and crowded. young, old, single, families, just about every type of person you can imagine. i was there three times last summer and it was packed with people from the dunes to the water. these crowds, combined with the lack of lifeguards, has always been a touchy point with the NPS. with the dunes washed away, the "privacy" of the beach has also been washed away. perhaps this is a big deal to the NPS.

i'm going to remain optimistic about gunnison, but unless there are people using the beach starting in a couple of months, the wildlife will claim it for the summer and we all may be out of luck. gunnison is by far the most crowded beach at sandy hook and the rangers and lifeguards keep any unsavory behavior at bay.

i just grumpy because i selfishly love going to both of these beaches with my wife and friends, and this year we may have neither.

Unfortunate
 

I began to come to LHB with my 2 sons a few seasons ago, I have a friend that has been going there since he was 19....39 this year. We are all saddened by the apparent inability of the state to accomodate a portion of taxpaying individuals that wish to have an area for their likes. I hope by some miracle the beach does open and will reintroduce nudism to a brand new beach for us. Good luck to us all.

I'm grumpy, too. We tried to get out to Lighthouse two summers ago, but it was too complicated a route for us, and we gave up. Now, we'll never get a chance to experience it.

Looking at alternatives, what is the status for other beaches on that coast for this summer? I've heard there is a different unofficial nude beach somewhere in Long Island. Topless-ness is somewhat common on Jones Beach and Brighton Beach, are those beaches going to be closed this summer due to hurricane damage? Same question for the Jersey beaches. It would be horrible for the economy if multiple beaches are closed for the summer.

I'm curious about that, too. I think it would take some kind of massive dredging operation to get Gunnison Beach ready for summer time. I haven't seen pictures of the beach lately, though. I've Googled for them, but don't see any. Even if the beach has sand, apparently, there is a problem with drinking water lines being broken and needing repair. There was even mention about the possibility of live ordnance on the beach.

in NJ it varies by location. some towns had moderate dunes, some towns were smarter and had bigger dunes and then some towns had barely any dunes to speak off. obviously towns that had higher and wider dunes made out better than towns that didn't. but there are spots along the shore that had little to no damage from surge while others are destroyed regardless of dunes. where the bands from the storm hit is not as you'd expect. one town could be destroyed but the next town north or south is fine. as little as 2 or 3 blocks made a huge difference. a lot of variables, some that could be controlled while others you can't prepare against.

most towns will be back up and running by this summer beach wise. a lot of beaches cold open tomorrow. most towns have already committed to opening the beaches, a lot without raising badge prices. sandy hook probably won't because it's a national park and funding for that will be the last to go through. the beaches will obviously not be was wide as people are used to. dredging is going on in places like Belmar, Pt. Pleasant Beach and Manasquan, but too much of the beach was lost to ever get it back to the way it was. no amount of dredging will. some of those places 1/2 of the beach is gone. most if not all of the sand is cleared off the streets in every town and piled back on the beach after going through trommels. the piles are sitting there waiting to get spread along the beach. most places with significant damage on the barrier island lost a lot of sand into the bay. that is a major problem no many people are talking about, how much sand and debris washed into the bay and the extensive amount of dredging the bay will need. it has me questioning if i will even use my boat this summer.

as for ordnance on the beach you are correct. that has been a problem at Sandy Hook and other beaches up and down the NJ coast for many years. Sandy Hook was as proving ground up through WWI. every once in a while some shells or other larger caliber ammunition will wash up. Sandy just washed up and was uncovered a whole bunch all at once.

Encouraging Gunnison Beach News
 

Sound like Gunnison will be open this summer. This link stays current on the beaches status.

gunnisonbeachnj.us/tracker

Lighthouse Beach, Long Island New York
 

Sorry to those uninterested. Better and more current image of the devastation of Hurricane Sandy.
Picture 1 two months before the storm.

Those before and after pictures seem to demonstrate the point that the NPS was making about the visibility of the nude beach now that the dunes are gone. In the first photo, you can't see the houses by the lighthouse at all and anything happening on that part of the nude beach would be blocked. In the second picture, you can see that everything from the house and the bottom of the lighthouse.

Light House Beach - No more Nudity!
 

Newsday 2/27/2013

A decades-long tradition of nude sunbathing on Fire Island beaches is coming to an end this summer: Fire Island National Seashore authorities have announced plans to enforce long-standing laws banning the practice.

The surging popularity of Lighthouse Beach in particular has led to increased complaints and observations of assault, sex, masturbation and prostitution, said Fire Island chief ranger Lena Koschmann. On some summer days, as many as 4,000 people descend on the narrow strip of land east of Robert Moses State Park Field 5, in the shadow of famed Fire Island Lighthouse.

"We've been struggling to make it work because Fire Island has a history of that type of use and people have been coming there for years," Koschmann said. "The more we talked about it and researched it, the more we realized that that use wasn't compatible with an area like Lighthouse Beach."

The beach's proximity to the lighthouse generated complaints from tourists about public nudity, which now would be seen more frequently because the beach's dunes, decimated by superstorm Sandy, no longer obscure sightlines, she said.

Since the beach has no lifeguards, bathrooms or trash cans, Koschmann said thousands of nude sunbathers pose a public health risk in an area that wasn't meant to be heavily used.

"There has been a huge change in the demographic and the types of activities happening there in the last 10 or 15 years," she said. "Now when you go out there it's a party atmosphere. There's DJs and music, and people partying and drinking."

Koschmann also said some social media sites carry invitations to meet for public sex on the beach.

The fact that public nudity is illegal in New York was another compelling reason to change the policy, since FINS maintains joint jurisdiction with the state, she said. The ban also will be enforced at four other Fire Island beaches where nude sunbathing is known to take place -- including the tract of land in front of Sailors Haven, from Point O' Woods to Cherry Grove.

Koschmann recommended the change in policy to National Seashore Superintendent Christopher Soller, who approved and announced it in an annual release outlining use restrictions at the national park. Rangers will begin by "educating" nude bathers, Koschmann said, and progress to giving tickets. But that is difficult, she said, since many nude sunbathers do not carry identification.

Toplessness, she said, "is tricky. The law that's on the books still says a woman has to have her breasts covered. That being said, there is some case law that has led to a different type of enforcement in that area. . . . We're not going to be hammering on toplessness."

Local and national nudist recreation groups decried the change in policy, which they say eliminates their only option for public nude bathing on Long Island.

"I'm pretty disappointed," said Felicity Jones, co-founder of Young Naturists and Nudists America, a New York City-based group. "It was the best beach we had for New Yorkers, and it's not easy to be a nudist in New York."

Jones, who asked to be identified only by her pen name, said her group now would probably spend most of the summer at New Jersey's Gunnison Beach.

Long Island Travasuns, a nudist-naturist group started in 1978, is hoping it can meet FINS halfway.

The group's president, who asked to be identified only as Dan, said he is "deeply saddened and extremely disappointed" by the change, but his members "hope to reach an understanding that is acceptable to everyone involved."

Koschmann said the decision is final and will be enforced. Violators could face 6 months in jail and up to $5,000 in fines.

"One of the key decision-makers for us is we've really tried. A lot of people say you should do a better job of enforcing laws down there," she said. "We only have six field rangers on staff, and they're responsible for 32 miles of beach. And they're spending between 75 and 100 percent of a summer day on that one stretch of beach."

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/t...land-1.4717776

SO SAD!!!! DAM It was the highlight of my summers!! Well looks like I wont be heading there as regularly as I was.

Nice pic so sad we cant go nude i just got into it last year

Gunnison Beach at Sandy Hook should be open around Memorial Day. So have faith! :cool:

I'm keeping my fingers crossed

Lighthouse Beach August 8, 2009
 

Lighthouse Beach August 8, 2009

Sandy Hook
 

The following are some pics in response to a thread under "Voyeur - Nude Beach Reports". Sorry for the poor quality, only can do so much with old iPhone. Copy below is the report in the thread.

QUOTE=brunettesrule;1263375]Okay, the wife and I were at Gunnnison Beach (Sandy Hook) NJ this weekend. We've been going there since about 1999, so we've been there MANY times. We came up on Friday and were on the beach by about 6 pm. We stayed until dark. The beach actually closes at 10 pm.

When we were there we took a ton of pictures of ourselves using a tripod and flash. We stayed to the extreme south end of the beach to not bother anybody, but I'm sure people were watching. Eventually, we were approached by a fit gay guy who said, "You guys look so cute that if I weren't such a fag, I'd jump right in." We started talking to him and even had him in a few of our pictures. He seemed pretty high but a lot of fun.

Saturday, we got to the beach by about 8:30 am. You really need to do that here so that you get there before the best lot closes. When that happens, you end up having to park at a lot that is much farther away, and it is a major trek to get from the lots to the beach, which is huge.

When we got there and set up, I notice that we were about 20 feet from a girl we have seen before. She is gorgeous. I think she looks Italian or Jewish and is in her late 20's. Perfect face. I wish I could think of someone famous she resembles. Maybe the closest would be Amanda Peet, but better. She has an allover tan, and is shaved down below to just a pencil thin, very light brown landing strip. She is very slender, with A cup breasts, and her body flares outward to a very round butt. VERY nice.

Anyway, she is SUPER social. She had three friends who showed up late to meet up with her. A guy in a fedora, and two women. Both in their late 20's. Both had short, fashionable haircuts. Cute faces. Similar bodies to the Amanda Peet girl. That male friend must have been in heaven.

The Amanda Peet girl is a major flirt and drinks a lot of alcohol on the beach. She is also good friends with an African American guy who has a tent with a NY Giants flag waving over it. He is in his late 40's, but in very good shape and very relaxed and friendly. I'm going to skip to the chase. At some point, the Peet girl left her friends, went into this guy's tent with him, and was indisposed for about 5 minutes. Another, fitter and younger, African American guy stood watch outside the tent (for rangers, most likely). Then went inside, too, for about 5 minutes. I was dying to know what was going on.

Then, a fourth friend of the Peet girl, showed up to peep inside the tent. This friend (nice body) was wearing a cowboy hat and bikini. She was looking in and talking with the other girl off and on. Then, I was distracted for a while because we were getting ready to leave the beach for a few hours. When I looked back, though, the cowboy hat girl had stripped naked and was handing her hat to some guy. I can't remember if she went in the tent or not, but why else would she be stripping down? My mind is killing me thinking of the fun that Giants guy was having. Damn him, LOL!

I'll talk more about what I saw later if anyone is interested.[/QUOTE]

I remember when lighthouse was like this, :(

Anyone been to lighthouise beach yet this year? I know it is not nude but action groups are saying to go topless with minimum though which is legal. Was wondering if anyone has been there for a report...

My Wife from last year before ban