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Who has a right to say they aren't HW's? Plenty of today's PS's are also great mother's who do have a family role. You wanna find a HW today, I suggest looking in the poorer areas, at least in western countries.

Hell, the wealthy wives are rarely HW's anymore. They either have a job, hobby, or nanny. Or all 3, but a nanny almost assuredly. I lived on the edge of the wealthiest part of Houston, TX for many years, & each day all u would see in the massive area were Mexican women pushing strollers w white babies in em.

Not getting political, I just think it helps to illustrate my point. Unless you feel a HW today only gets preggo, cleans & cooks?

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OH SHIT
 

LMFAO.... I need to amend a part of my comments after watching the vid. :o And apologies to cgnok for not trusting what was said on this vid. TBH, I DL it thinking it was more of the previous vids above.

To be clear, I still feel the same regarding vids I meant to be addressing. Also to be clear, it took me less than 2 seconds to realize, cgnok, is right on that vid. Promise to watch a sec or two b4 jumping in again.

Sry, Wino, but it may not be marked but it's so old it may have just worn off by now. :rolleyes:

I wasn't trying to pick a fight. All I was trying to do was point out that those aren't actually amateur housewives, they are, for the most part, porn stars. The videos I have are so old that they date from the days of Napster and Morpheus. I have seen a few of those were the guys actually do wear condoms, and the women they're doing I only saw in the one video. Those women are probably actually amateur women...I think that's a logical assumption.

Protests
 

Should I stop posting?

Ignore
 

Keep posting. Ignore the assholes.

Just the amateur stuff.

Not the professional stuff, whether with housewives or porn actresses.

No, Wino, please keep posting & please try not to take comments like these as insults. I see them as a bit of fun mixed w getting different ideas & opinions from members. OCC has always taken pride in keeping any real spats out of our lil community, & the mods have done this w great success over the years.

And like, cgnok, I wasn't trying to argue or start any caca. Really just my thoughts on certain vids today & if they can, or should be considered as am or not. Unfortunately, the PHC vid was, as cgnok said, just an old pro vid. cgnok, until my ext HD crashed I had so many from as far back as u mentioned, & I'm sick to have lost em.

Last, Wino, I doubt there's anyone here, w over 100 posts, who hasn't had one or more yanked, or discussed as in this thread. Just consider it helping newer members w info, as well as all of us trading thoughts that only help OCC get even better & continuing to be an example for other forums. ;):)

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Last & I'll shut it. cgnok, back in the early years, isn't that about when the porn biz chose to start using condoms because of AIDS? I know it didn't last long, but could it be why we see more condom use in older stuff? IDK if that's a reason or not... what do u think?

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How do you know?
 

Unless you have been watching porn for the last 20 years (which I haven't), how do you know what's amateur?

I think, in these videos, if they're not using a condom they are true amateurs. Plus I only saw those women with the condoms in one video. The women without condoms, I saw some of them in several different videos. The videos I have are all taken about the same time frame. I would say within a few years of each other. If they're using condoms in some and not the others, I think it's logical to assume that some are pro some aren't.

I'm not a moderator. It's not for me to say what you can post or not post. I really don't care what you post. I was just trying to point out that those aren't true amateurs. The videos are still hot, just don't buy totally into those being "housewives."