Kristalltherme is clothing optional sundays until 17:30. About half will be dressed.
If you like CFNM and girls in bikinis looking at you, go then. You will also see dressed and later undressed.
If you want as much nudes as possible, go saturday. Also the later the better.
Liquidrom is a waste of time, go Kristall or Vabali instead.

Recommendations please!

I'm planning a visit to Brussels next month. Looking to try out naked spas close by (preferably busy, lots of women and varied in age range).

Cheers, respectful perv.

How many of the younger dressed girls end up going naked at the changeover? I can imagine this could result in some enf scenarios, where they weren't intending to go nude, but got swept up in the moment, persuaded by friends, or simply didn't want to leave. Is it rigidly enforced? I imagine some would try to continue in their bathing suit.

Belgium
 

Reading a lot about Dutch and German sauna's. Now, travelling to Belgium (Antwerp region) next week. Any suggestions on great sauna's?

If you go to Antwerp, go to saunatopia. This is basically a fitness center, so highest chance of younger crowd.

What do you mean by partitions, are the stalls fully private with curtains/door or is it just dividers between them?

Vabali changing
 

In Vabali, the changing rooms are maze like with lots of corners. You’re not in a big wide open room. You’re in an area with lockers that could fit maybe 6-8 people and around each corner is similar. Still good for viewing!

Thanks Rudolfm - appreciate the advice - will skip liquidrom and do kristallth instead. I'm now planning kristallth on Friday evening , kristallth again on Saturday and then Vbli on Sunday. I thought of doing vbli on saturday and then cfnm on Sunday at krstalth is very tempting but I'm not sure if that will be more fun than lots of nudes at kritsalth on Saturday - life is full of such hard choices 🤣

Dividers in many but not all the shower areas at vbli. Vbli was still great fun and defintely recommended for a visit. Spa zvr is just better designed from a voyeurs point of view 😆

For people who have been to erding I have heard that the crowd there is on average quite young because of the other attractions erding has to offer.

Is this true and also do you ever see families in the sauna part.

My biggest turn on is mother daughter combinations.

I went to Erding a few years back. Yes, lots of families, father/mother along with their daughters, for example. All fully naked. Certainly interesting to see an 18 year old girl standing around naked with both her parents, not at all bothered that they were able to see her pubic hair style and the rest of her body. I went on the weekend. It probably would be different during the week, especially during the school day or work day.

Zuiver
 

I spent the evening in Zuiver outside Amsterdam yesterday. I’m going to try to answer as many queries here as possible. €25 Uber ride from the city centre.

As for what was being asked here during the week, everyone really walks around naked like 90% of the time in there. Vabali has a robe atmosphere where people wear robes unless doing the activities whereas in Zuiver everyone is walking around naked most of the time (there were no loungers in the main area of Zuiver either so you are going from activity to activity all the time, almost necessitating being naked).

Changing rooms were long corridor type rooms….i would argue not as well lit as Vabali…. When I arrived in Vabali we had to get changed beside couple whereas in Zuiver there was much more room to be spread out (i preferred Vabali on that front).

We went on a Monday evening. it didn't seem too crowded. Age demographic was mostly 25-45. Males definitely outnumbered females 60:40.

My wife had has reservations prior to Vabali but absolutely none in Zuiver…. she had coyly stripped in Vabali but in Zuiver she stripped totally naked in the changing room (it probably helped that people were further away) and then when we went into thr main spa, her robe came off and she walked around freely. In terms of the shy nudist look, my wife (and a few others!) did do "hands over boobs" while walking around initially but then got over it.

as a zuiver v vabali comparison, it was awesome seeing my wife walk around naked in front of people all the time. the highloght was probably walking the 100m or so nude outside to the outdoor hot tub where you are completely naked and exposed.

by extension- sitting in that outdoor hottub at the end of zuiver and seeing women walking towards you completely naked is amazing. you get a great view of their tits and pussies as they get in.

in terms of beauties, there were a few stand outs yesterday. there were 5-6 women in their forties with nice bodies and big, firm grabable sized tits. they all had shaved pussies and said hello in the hot tubs, etc.

There was a black English girl, small tits with pierced nipples and a shaven pussy walking around with her boyfriend naked all day. i had seen her outside in a robe initially so great to see her so free and naked inside. there was another blonde english girl, around 20 with curly blonde hair and nice big tits. very slim body and again- a shaven pussy. Really great smile.

spotted a young couple strolling around in robes for ages at the start. girl was blonde and maybe 20. she seemed uncomfortable and as though she would never take off her robe. i saw them naked in the hot tub a while later so i got in opposite them. she had small boobs and that was all i could see. then she got out and as much as i craned my neck (and she was 30cm from me!) i couldn’t see her pussy! Couple left their robes and towels beside hot tub and walked off. Her body and butt were incredible, super slim and toned. I waited in the hot tub to see them come back and when they did, I was treated to the most beautiful bald vagina I had ever seen. It was just beautiful. She had gotten over all her hang ups at this stage and stood around at the side of the pool totally nude for ages.

More to come.

Zuiver (part 2)
 

What is amazing about a place like Zuiver is that you see a pretty woman walking around in a towel or a robe and five minutes later she is getting into a hot tub naked opposite and smiling at you.

When you walk into Zuiver, on the left and right are these glass paneled rooms with baths….the baths are quite shallow so women are basically just lying nude for you to see them naked. There were about eight naked women lying in these when we arrived.

The bald v natural pussies…. Most women were bald. My wife had trimmed pubic hair but definitely bush. The hot tub at the end of the garden gave you a great view of all the pussies up close and personal as they got in….i’m not convinced all pussies ought to be bald.

I also spotted another young couple, late 20s standing at the entrance for ages in robes. She was ginger; supremely pretty and with a great smile. I suspected she was Irish, not just in the hair but that she was talking to people in hot tubs and appearing to have language difficulties. She was super cool and pretty, nice B cup tits and….while her pubic hair was shaved short, I think it would still count as a fairly full bush, out to the sides and everything.

Honestly I couldn’t take my eyes off the girl. It was her mild discomfort at the start, the hands over her medium sized breasts as she initially walked and then she just got over it as she went around. Something very sexy about seeing her uncomfortably chatting to people but growing in confidence.

Towards the end of the evening there was a big sauna ritual that nearly everybody attended (it wasn’t that busy overall) and she was there, sitting at the opposite side to me. Who would’ve known I’d be so drawn to her beautiful smile and hairy pussy. Her tits were nice too.

As a sidenote- saunas are better lit in Vabali and easier to get a good look at the women around you.

After the sauna we were all urged to go outdoors cool down. I waited a few minutes but when I did go outside passed the usual fifteen loungers of dudes with their dicks out and then at the end….the red haired girl lying totally nude on a lounger for everyone to see. Highlight of my trip to Amsterdam? Either that or the perfectly bald pussy from the young blonde girl.

Red haired girl was lying beside her boyfriend on a lounger. First time I passed she had her knees up but you couldn’t quite get a great look between her legs while the second time I passed she was lying perfectly flat, pussy up to the sky and there for everyone to check out (it was a beautiful pussy, not very much in terms of lips coming out (which I like) and all you could see was her public hair really which on closer inspection could see was shortened but still extending wide and to the sides).

The breasts were terrific all day. It is great to see women walking around so freely and happy to show their bodies to everyone. I love that my wife and her great tits were there for everyone to see too. In Vabali she had been shy but yesterday, it was obvious that she was growing in comfort (albeit only because it was a foreign country).

It was very much a culture yesterday where everyone walks around naked all the time. Leave your robe behind and let everyone see your genitals all the time.

If you asked me which I wanted to visit again in the future, Vabali or Zuiver….without a doubt- Vabali. Zuiver was fine and everything but it was like one of those leisure centres if they held a nude evening. Vabali is special.

Amazing, just what I wanted to hear 😂

Any highlights you can recall?

Great detailed post. Really good observation on the male to female ratio - the day I went as well it was like 60-40 m to f. And a couple of very obvious pervs staring and openly following girls - pisses me off to see that - its guys like that who scare away girls from nude days and spoil things for all of us! There was less of the obvious pervs at vabali which may help explain the better female ratio at vabali

Yeah, I've been down to Germany a few times, and both these stories were pre pandemic but on separate trips.

First, in one of the outdoor areas, I watched a teenage girl and her father emerge from one of the saunas. She had a cute face, medium breasts, her hair in a pony tail, a fun looking butt, and a full bush. Yes, a cute teenage with a full bush. They stood around talking for a while, both holding their towels, so they were both naked. Eventually they walked inside and as they walked away, I got an extended view of her bare butt.

Second was indoors by one of the showers. There was a middle aged mother and father with their teenaged daughter, all tightly wrapped in towels. The teenager was very hot, absolutely beautiful face, long brunette hair. She was wrapped in a skimpy towel that did cover her privates, but that was about it - the towel ended just above her breasts, and barely below her butt. I was hopeful that they'd get naked for the shower, and shortly they did. The mother had small breasts and a trimmed bush. The daughter was stunning. She had perky little breasts. One of the best small bubble butts I've ever seen. And a perfect pussy. She was totally shaved, really beautiful labia. It almost seemed like an honour to be able to see such a private part of this pretty girl's body. Either way, after her quick shower, she covered up again with her towel.

Both were super intimate views, but I felt it was even more intimate with the second girl simply because she was shaved, giving an incredible view of her vaginal area.

@Wackojacko2003 and @londondude_01, great stories!

On the subject of families, I previously posted about a family I observed, an older couple and a younger male and female, probably very early 20s. The younger pair were both totally hairless, the mum had a landing strip and the dad was natural or trimmed. I assumed the older pair were a couple but couldn't tell what the relationship was with the younger two.

If they were siblings they were clearly a very open family.

If the boy was the son in law, he must have loved being able to compare his girlfriend to her mum, but would have needed to be on best behaviour in front of his father in law. The mum maybe also enjoyed checking out the smooth cock of her son in law!

If the girl was the daughter in law, the dad must have really enjoyed checking his daughter in law out. She was the least shy of all of them and was happy to show everything.

Brussels
 

Spaa near Brussels - Your recommendations please!

I'm planning a visit to Brussels late April. Looking to try out naked spas close by (preferably busy, lots of women and varied in age range).

Cheers, respectful perv.

Wellness Resort Wekend
 

Last weekend my wife and I (both 30 yo) stayed at at nice wellness resort in Austria. There where mostly couples ranging from 20 - 70 but with a lot of attractive couples in their 30s. There were also some female friend groups. So overall there were more females than males (maybe 70:30).
The resort had a lot of nude areas with saunas, steam rooms and a whirlpool and a small natural lake. The resort is quite big and it was never crowded.

There were a lot of "interesting" guests that caught our attention I want to tell you about:

We saw a ~20 yo girl with her mother (~40) and grandmother (~60). The young girl was slim, had small tits with cute pink nipples and a shaved pussy. Her mother was also really good looking with big natural saggy tits, a bit chubby and a landing strip with big jucy pussy lips. Her grandmother had very saggy tits and a full bush.
It was really fascinating seeing them side by side, they were totally relaxed with thei nudity.

Quite a few of the girls had breast enlargements, all looking very diffrent. One tall woman in her late 30s was very slim and tall with very natural looking C cup tits. Another woman in her 30s was very athletic with a lot if tattoos with very obvious fake tits, they were huge (DD) and round. She looked like a cheap pornstar which is really not my preference but I couldn't keep my eyes of her. Once in the sauna I was sitting on the opposite side of her and she caught me looking at her tits. She smiled and seemed flattered and even spreaded her legs a bit. She had a shaved pussy with a piercing. Still not my preference but I enjoey the view.
Then there was a small chubby girl with fake tits but I couldn't get a good look at her.

Every hour one of the employes made a sauna infusion which a lot of guests attended. Afterwards a lot of people used the small natural lake right next to the sauna to cool down (12 ° celsius, so pretty cold)
After the infusion everyone wanted to get out of the sauna quickly, there were only two showers so everyone had to wait naked crowded together. But the best views were when someone walked in and out of the lake as they had no chance to cover up.
One time the attractive slim women in her late 30s with fake C cup tits was the first to rush into the lake. As it was really cold she qanted to get out of the lake and back to her towel as fast as possible. I was standing on the narrow stairs leading into the water when she rushed out of the water not looking forward almost crashing into me with her big tits and hard nipples brushing against my arm. Lovely feeling :)

While my wife was sleeping I went to the sauna alone and was sitting there with another solo dude and one pretty young girl. It was a mild sauna with only 65 °C, the girl was lying on her back with her eyes closed. The sauna had a huge panoramic window with a terrace outside. The dude left the sauna and after showering he was standing outside the sauna looking through the window.
The girl was lying there with her legs spread wide open facing the window so he must have had an excellent view of her pussy. I also left the sauna and walked towards him. It was very obvious that he was staring at her pussy but there was noone around and her eyes were closed.
When he saw me approaching he was quickly looking away in the other direction towards some mountains. I said "very nice view, isn't it?", he said "yes indeed" while looking at the mountains. I replied "No I mean inside the sauna" and we both laughed. He seemed relieved and we both enjoyed the sight of a really beautiful pussy. The girl was fully shaved with big jucy labia, sweat was slowly running down her thighs.

There was a big room with infrared heated benches. In the front row 3 girl in their 20s were lying beside each other fully naked, casually chatting. My wife and I were in the row behind them which was a bit futher up so we had a great view but they couldn't see us. They all had quite similar bodies, slim, fully shaved pussy, firm B-C cup tits with small pink nipples.
One girl suggested that they should take a seflie. For the first picture they covered their tits with their hands, but then the also took some pictures with their tits exposed. I loved how relaxed they were regarding their nudity and wondered if they would send those pictures to anyone.

Afterwards my wife and I went to the nude whirlpool, shortly after the girls followed. When they got into the pool we had another really good look at their naked bodies. There was a fourth girl in their group joining us in the whirlpool. She was pregnant with a big round belly and had really big swollen tits with big areola and dark nipples. I bet she looked just like her friends before pregnancy.

On the last day the sun finally came out and it was a really warm and beautiful day. We got onto a sunbed near the small lake. Three other young couples were lying next to us but they were all covered in their towels. My wife and I were lying completely naked enjoying the sun.
After a short while the first girl pulled her towel down exposing her tits. A few minutes later she was completly nude, her boyfriend followed her example. The other couple put their towels away too, just the youngest couple remained covered.
The funny thing is that they were completyl nude and relaxed inside the sauna.

Our favourite room was a warm, dark room with 6 doublebeds seperated by tree stumps with a water fountain in the middle and soft music playing. While lying on your own bed you couldn't see the other beds, but when sitting up there were some angles were you could see them.
It was by no means a sauna but still pretty warm so you had to be naked, otherwise it would be too hot.
There were only few people inside, most of the couples were cuddling and sleeping.
One time I went in while my wife was sleeping again. I was quietly looking around, at first glance there were no people inside. When walking past the last, most hidden bed I noticed that a couple was lying there. He was lying on his back, she was sitting, jerking his dick with her big tits bouncing up and down. When she saw me she immediatly stopped.
I acted like nothing happened and walked out again. At dinner we were sitting close to each other, she was super embarressed when she saw me again :D
My wife and I used this room to fuck in the evening when most of the other guest were getting ready for dinner, we were never disturbed.


Overall it was a really nice relaxing weekend with a lot of beautiful sights.
As this questions often comes up: almost all women <40 yo were fully shaved (besides my wife and one other girl with landing strips), there were some older women with natural pubic hair bust most of them were also shaved.

Two Visits
 

Two visits within two months brought very nice experiences. The first experience was a visit to the baths in the capital of Austria. It was a beautiful sunny day on Friday, after a long trip, I decided to go to the sauna. It was about 3 pm in the afternoon, the staff was mostly older. But I will especially highlight two couples from the entire stay. The first couple was father and daughter! I found out that it was a daughter right in the sauna when her father told her that he was holding a place for his daughter. The father was about 54 years old, with a thin build and looked very good for his age. The daughter was about 19 years old. She had about B breast size and a shaved pussy and a small tattoo on her butt! she was quite confident, she entered the sauna among the last, where there were about 30 people, and for about 5 seconds she stood completely naked and everyone enjoyed the sight of her naked young body. After the sauna, I was lucky enough to have a shower near me, where I enjoyed her body for about a minute. She had a beautiful shape like any young girl. It was an exciting moment. Another couple was a boy and a girl about 21 years old. The first time I met them was when I was in the infrared sauna, where I was enjoying the sauna, and after about 12 minutes, this young couple left. The girl was gorgeous, completely my type, brown hair, breasts size B, but a towel around her waist. I didn't see her baby, I secretly hoped to see her again. My time came in about 1 hour where I was relaxing on a deck chair by the cooling pool. And to my admiration, a young couple arrived. The girl took off her towel and rowed completely naked into the pool. Her body was beautiful, she had a very tight pussy with tiny black hairs. Her ass was firm, with slightly larger hips, which was delicious. It was a wonderful experience.
Visit number 2 - Saunas Brno Czech.
it is a large water park where young people are expected. After entering the sauna world, the sauna was half empty, after about 5 minutes I chose the steam sauna. I only see older people, after about 10 minutes a young couple around 21 entered. The girl was beautiful, brown hair, height about 170 cm, beautiful body, shaved pussy, and her clitoris was a little visible, when I entered the cooling pool next, the girl and her boyfriend came behind me, I enjoyed her naked body from about one meter, her nipples were also beautiful. I asked them if they go to the sauna often and they answered that they rarely and only in the afternoon hours when there are fewer people, then I met them in the rest area where she was wearing a towel... these were exciting experiences the last two months.

near Brussels
 

Waer Waters or Thermen Dilbeek, especially on Saturdays/Sundays
Waer Waters, english spoken

Dilbeek was an eye opener for me.

It's what you would call a proper family sauna.

Therme Erding
 

I went there whilst on a business trip back in 2018, on a weekday evening. Despite that, it was still busy. I had a swim in the "normal" pool, and also had lots of fun in the waterslide area, which is really great! Then I went into the nude zone, which I felt was nice enough, but unexciting. My experience was that most women wrapped themselves in towels unless they were either swimming, in a sauna, or in another feature. There was a complete age range from 20's to 70's. Fat people, thin people, pubic shaving or hairy, unfortunately less hairiness than I would have liked!

[QUOTE=bangtiger;3364938]Hi friends

Love this thread.

I will be in Berlin next month and have Friday evening, Saturday and Sunday free,

I intend to do Kristallthrm on Saturday and Vabli on Sunday. But I'm a bit confused on Friday evening - should I do liquidrm or vabali for 3 hours from 5 pm to 8 pm?

Incidentally , I did Vabli on a sunday last year - lots of hot young girls and great fun but unfortunately a bit more of a covered up and prudish vibe compared to say Spa Zvr in amsterdam ( maybe i just got lucky and went on on a good day to spa z) and i also didn't love that some of the shower areas in vabli had partitions unlike spa zvr with its wide open mixed showers layout and bright lights.

Looking for the berlin equivalent of a spa z amsterdam vibe with girls walking around nude and openplan well lit common areas 🫣

Some of the net reviews on liquidrm suggested that some couples make out and have discreet sex in the pools and the thought of voyeuring that is hot

Any guidance will be gratefully received 😜[/QUOTED]

Does Spa Z have better lighting (especially in the saunas) than Vbli? When I went to Vbli last year I thought the saunas but especially the changing rooms to be too dimly lit (a bit disappointing). Can you describe and compare Spa Z to Vbli? Thanks :)

For some reason I didn't get the quote function right in my first post, so trying again ;)

Does Spa Z in Amsterdam have better lighting (especially in the saunas) than Vabli? When I went to Vbli last year I thought the saunas but especially the changing rooms to be too dimly lit (a bit disappointing). Can you describe and compare Spa Z to Vbli? Thanks :)

Vabali v Zuiver
 

My feeling on it was that both the saunas and the changing rooms were darker in Zuiver than Vabali.

I have very fond collections of checking out all the breasts in front of me in the saunas in Vabali whereas in Zuiver you could only see the ones that were beside you. I was there last week. I had two attractive mid 40s ladies beside me with nice breasts and long, hard nipples…. I spent my time looking at those rather than anything opposite because in Zuiver I couldn’t see the other side of the sauna.

Changing rooms in Zuiver are more open plan, easy enough to check out the women changing nearby but I reckon Vabali was brighter.

Vabali v Zuiver
 

My feeling from my visit to Vabali was that it was very hard to see in the saunas (especially the indoor ones) and in the common changing areas, especially after dark when there is no light entering the windows.

Would be interested in hearing @bangtiger 's thoughts who seems to have a different perspective :):)

All good friend - you are right in that most of the z saunas are dark. However, in Z the sauna with the infra-red heating chairs and the sauna with the stone benches are both well lit and both offer great viewing fun. Plus I really like the open plan change rooms and the open plan central shower area in z.

But honestly - both z and v were great experiences. Sitting here 7000 kms away I am deeply regretting my life choices on why I don't live in Europe 😯

Yeah - and the infrared at Z is very visible just walking by too. Whole wall of windows.

How is Z in bad weather? I've only been in summer and I love strolling around naked outside checking out the action. I assume that lower part barely gets used in the colder months?

What do you mean by "proper family sauna"? I wanted to go there for a long time but always hesitated.

Z in summer on a hot day was great. Z in winter was half empty and the vibe was a bit dull.

Had a look at the Kristallthrm website and they don't seem to have a book in advance system unlike Vabli. I know the wait time to get into V on a weekend can be really long unless you book in advance. Does anyone know how bad does the wait time get for Kristlthrm on a Friday evening or Saturday noon? I'm keen to try K instead of V but don't wait to spend my limited time standing in a queue!

My trip to V in B
 

I have been to a lot of the places mentioned in this thread but thought I would share my favourite story that happened about a year ago.

I think it is fair to say that V in B is one of the "classiest" of them all and most likely to persuade people to get naked who otherwise might not due to its charm and cool vibe. Well my girlfriend and I, who had already been to V before, were planning a trip with our friends to the capital of Germany and thought it would be fun to see if they wanted to go, we told them there would be some level of nudity involved due to the German culture and they seemed up for it. Quick description of the people involved: Me (20M), my girlfriend (20F), her friend (19F) and her boyfriend (22M). My girlfriend is petite and very naturally pretty and so is her friend. 19F has pierced nipples and no tattoos, blonde hair. My gf has slightly larger breasts with no piercings and no tattoos, blonde hair. Both clean shaven everywhere.

My girlfriend and her friend had both been topless around us before on a beach holiday at our villa but never fully nude. We were all understandably a bit apprehensive about what it would be like but it turned out to be relaxing and fun. Here's how it went:

We arrived in the changing rooms wearing winter wear due to the time of year and all started undressing to underwear, we had been situated in the changing area closest to the showers so privacy was not an option as the entrance lead straight out to the main foyer. We were quick to get into the robes at this point, and equally as quick to go have a shower in the separate rooms. After this the first place we went was the small sauna on the opposite side of the indoor pool, it seemed like a good introduction for our friends who had never been to a place like this. We all sat on the top level with towels wrapped around us and stayed that way for 5 minutes until I looked over at the girls who were sat proudly with their tits out. This was not something new but still exciting as a view of things to come. After another short while, both girls decided to lay down which meant getting uncovered, my gf lay on the bench below giving a good view of her whole uncovered body whilst 19F lay on the top bench giving me a direct view of her pussy, not what I was expecting so quickly. Her legs were closed but because of how skinny they both are, there wasn't much possibility of concealing anything.

It wasn't long before we tried out the indoor pool, this meant ditching the towel and walking a few metres over to the steps which elevate you above the water before climbing back down, of course this is a bit of a thrill if you're not used to being naked, both girls were getting confident quickly and both had no hesitation in hanging up the towels and walking over. There were loads of other people around as it was a busy time of week, including people of all ages. We did not feel out of place being so young.

Next up was the steam room, at first we had the room to ourselves so were playing around spraying each other with the hose used to clean the surfaces, until someone else wanted to come in. Following this, a quick shower was necessary which we all took part in one by one as there was only 1 shower head. At this point there were no inhibitions and it was all quite stress free. We also tried the hot tub which involved another short trek from ditching the towels to being submerged under water. These are the most thrilling bits for me, seeing people walking confidently as if they are not naked, with no care about who sees them.

At the end of the day, we were the last ones in the facility and so had the whole indoor pool to ourselves, we all ditched the towels on a nearby lounger and jumped in, doing races up and down the pool, something that is not in the spirit of V normally, but there were no staff to tell us not to. 19F and my gf then climbed out and walked back to the changing room carrying their towels. A very fun day and one I will remember for a long time. We have not really discussed it since, but 19F keeps mentioning it saying she wants to go back to a German spa, but I'm not sure how to make it happen without sounding weird so it will have to happen naturally.

I have more stories, but this is the only time we have ever been with people we know, here are some other stories I could write about:

Nude watersliding at M in W
First time experience at TI near B
Casual nudity at Z in A
Thrilling dares at TE in M

Thanks! Would love to hear your stories about Z in A and TE in M. Are the sauna areas at TE in M well-lit?

Can you compare the lighting in the saunas at V in B and Z in A? I want to go to Z in A and want to know how well-lit it is compared to V in B. :)

Z in A:

Probably my favourite place overall, the audience is much the same as V in B but the layout is more appealing to what I like. The showers are mixed and well lit, the changing rooms are very open plan. The two recessed water beds are like being in a fishbowl :) There is one sauna, I think it is called the Caldarium, where the lighting is intense, almost like daylight, in here I don't think you're supposed to bring the towel because you sit on stone instead of wood. When I was in there I saw a couple come in without towels and just lay down, like the steam rooms but with better visibility because there is no fog. I also like how in Z the places to hang towels up are really far away from the actual pools meaning people have to walk a long way exposed and inevitably end up giving up and just walking around naked because the towels are so far away.

TE in M:

I also really like TE but for different reasons, it feels far more anonymous because there are just so many people and so much space. Again, very similar demographic. The big pool in the middle often gets busy meaning the towel rails get full so people have to walk further from wherever they hang their towels up. The saunas are not particularly well lit, apart from the steam room. My favourite part is the section by the steam room. It is a bit of a trek from the steam room to the showers and people tend to do it without the towel because of the salt peeling that they have put on in the steam room. This is also near where people undress after coming from the rest of TE.

M in W:

This one is the most unique offering in Germany. As far as I know it is the only place that still allows nude watersliding, even if only at certain times. Of course when going down a waterslide, you cannot bring a towel, so these get left all over the place and people will spend far longer than anywhere else uncovered. People will ditch their belongings on a deck chair by the wave pool then walk up the long staircases to the top of the waterslide tower uncovered. Sometimes there will be queues and then they will end up at the opposite side of the pool, depending on which slide. That means they then have to walk back past everyone to get back to their towels, or back up to the next slide. My favourite moment there was standing around in a big group of naked people my age waiting to go down the slide, as well as seeing multiple naked father daughter trips because the mums tend not to want to go down waterslides. This place is not as "luxurious" as V and Z but it is certainly more real. Unfortunately it also has more creepy perverts as well who think it is ok to sit at the entrance to the pools and ogle the naked girls. I really don't know why they're not more ashamed of themselves because it is embarassing for them, it is so obvious what they're doing, you can even see some of them touching themselves in the water. Do they not realise that they are causing fewer and fewer people to feel comfortable in these situations, therefore ruining it for themselves? Despite this, I still enjoy going here with my gf, there really is no other mainstream place, outside of nudist camps, where you can go down a waterslide naked - by the way you end up going much faster when you hit the bottom :)

I really want to go back to Germany now thinking about it. The voyeurism is slightly fun but the main appeal is just being there, it is immensely freeing to exist in a society that is so carefree, even if it is only temporarily. I envy the Germans who can go to a spa and relax after a stressful working week.

Today I was there, Friday 16:00 to 21:00. It was full, but not overfilled. About a third of the women walked around uncovered.In the saunas, of course all uncovered. I saw maybe 20-30 women I really found beautiful, out of probably 300 women there. Over half the women were shaved. There were all kinds of people, like the mix you would see at a mall.

Now to your questions, I asked them and they have no booking. But you would mostly just wait to buy a ticket. You can order tickets online and print them. They have big blue boxes (Kassenautomat), two outside the building, one inside. These scan your ticket and drop an electronic wristband. You can enter directly with that at the gates that resemble the NY subway. No wait to buy.
In case you are paranoid you can phone them, tell them your situation ( vaction only one day) and they will tell you how full it is. If you need further help, especially if you want to use public transport, just ask. It is 4€ one way, approximately 1hour, and safe and clean.

This is the shop for a five hour ticket, "zuhause ausdrucken" means print at home, "Warenkorb" means Basket, "Zur Kasse" means check out, "Einkauf ohne Registrierung" means buy without registered account.

https://shop.kristall-therme-ludwigs.../template/65/?

and full day:

https://shop.kristall-therme-ludwigs.../template/66/?

Thanks Rudolf. The 5 hour ticket sounds perfect. I intend to be there on Friday from 5 to 9 and then head to templeoase to try my luck!

I have been to M in W many times and quote everything you said, tho I would love more info about the father daughter trips - also it's very common for people to wear bikinis in slide, it's "forbidden" to slide naked

Been at N3ptun.b4d in Koln on a sunday afternoon.

Place was crowded. Age distribution was pretty even, I dare to say even biased to the younger side even. And to my surprise girls were definitely the majority. You could spot group of girls but never group of dudes.


Sauna was completely textile free, with several nude pools and terraces (which were in immediate vicinity of nearby flat windows!). Mixed changing rooms but ladies including my wife mostly preferred to use the women changing room. Oh well. People also walked from one place to another wrapped in towels and also laid still wrapping in tower. Full nudity only in the showers after the pools, the pools themselves, the saunas and steam room and solarium.


Memorable sights:
Asian lady in her 30, big boobs and fully shaven. Dared to go from one place to another with a towel that kept falling but she didnt mind.

Two young ladies in their low 20s. Blondes around 160cm. Perkiest boobs I have seen. Pretty ass and shaven. Caught them entering the sauna but lost them afterwards there were just so many people.

Tall lady also less than 30. Landing strip and protruding lips her boyfriend didnt mind me having a look it seems.

Low 20s girl. She was walkingnaround barefoot and with the towel around her waist, so basically topless through the entire center as she was the only one doing so.

At some point my wife was alone in a small pool with other 6 men that was a good sight. Her ass was floating so they must have gotten a good look at her pussy.

Spent there 5 hours and cant wait for another trip to germany.