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step1models 10-23-2009 11:43 AM

Sara Scene 6
 
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Today's update...

i hope my shoots give you the feeling that you are actually there with me. That is one of my goals.

Still to come with Sara...

-Naked Twister (one of my favorites)

Enjoy!

jespo91 10-23-2009 12:12 PM

Fantastic posts. Great Job.

Just out of sheer curiosity, it interests me a bit to hear the background on this. You just place an add on CL for girl wanting to make extra $$$$$$ for modeling?

Obviously some that respond might not be good modeling candidates so you ask for pictures in advance?

and do they come knowing there would be nudity asked of them?

If you dont mind me asking exactly how much $$$$ is involved??? or is it some kind of hourly thing??????


I love seeing amateurs and she seems so comfortable being there.

i am not trying to pry or anything, just curoius thats all.

Keep up the great posts.

step1models 10-23-2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jespo91 (Post 614545)
Fantastic posts. Great Job.

Just out of sheer curiosity, it interests me a bit to hear the background on this. You just place an add on CL for girl wanting to make extra $$$$$$ for modeling?

Obviously some that respond might not be good modeling candidates so you ask for pictures in advance?

and do they come knowing there would be nudity asked of them?

If you dont mind me asking exactly how much $$$$ is involved??? or is it some kind of hourly thing??????


I love seeing amateurs and she seems so comfortable being there.

i am not trying to pry or anything, just curoius thats all.

Keep up the great posts.

yes... we started with mainly craigslist ads... they come knowing that they will be doing swimwear, lingerie and nude work. most of the responses from cl however, were strippers, escorts etc. so we developed a recruiting system that is geared to real girls that mostly have never thought of modeling. we started going to bars that were at least 30 miles from where we live. it was so we dont get known for what we do in our towns lol. it wasn't cheap (i had to use my school loan money lol) and of course for a girl that has never done this, we have had to pay more than you'd think. yes, we have them send photos ahead of time and then go from there. also i think the real key to our success is that we make it priority to relate to the girls and have a great time with them during the shoot.
my partner has even ended up dating a couple of his models lol.... we also make sure to make them comfortable ahead of time instead of just rushing them into scheduling a shoot. that is not all of our system (gotta keep some of our secrets) hehe but it is some advice for any of you that would like to do this for fun. if you are not too picky, you can get the strippers and seasoned naked models from craigslist pretty cheap. they wont care if you are for real or not. as long as you have money and a camera. we just go to the next level in order to truely get the girl next door. there is no bigger rush than knowing you talked a sweet innocent girl into getting naked for you you'll see that we are different. unlike other sites you have seen where they just recruit from modeling sites. we initially tried a couple vids out for sale through a distributor. we are no longer working with him, but if any of you know who i am talking about, you will see that he recently changed his vid style and even his wording is similar to our yahoo group. anyways i hope you can all recognize that he gets girls that already model. WE get girls that never even thought of it before.... we are doing this because we are sick of sites telling us that they get real amateurs and then we watch and see obvious acting and girls that are on other sites!! who's with me??!!! lol

somebcguy 10-23-2009 12:57 PM

Good Job
 
I Have really enjoyed this, thank you!

ledude 10-23-2009 02:01 PM

Great videos
 
Thanks for the great videos. Real amateurs are so much better than pro amateurs.

I did a photo shoot with a girl and it was her first time posing semi nude and it was great. I remember when we came time for her to remove her top, she asked me to turn around since she was shy and it was her first time nude in front of a stranger. Those moments stay with you.

I'm looking at doing something similar to you in getting real amateurs to pose nude for $$$$.

Keep up the good work.

step1models 10-23-2009 02:31 PM

sounds like there are a lot of us on this forum! i wouldn't mind seeing some of the work :) let's all show these websites full of fakers where the real action is at!!

susansusan 10-23-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by step1models (Post 614608)
sounds like there are a lot of us on this forum! i wouldn't mind seeing some of the work :) let's all show these websites full of fakers where the real action is at!!

I do occassionally post my own stuff, or sometimes people post it on my behalf.

step1models 10-23-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by susansusan (Post 614621)
I do occassionally post my own stuff, or sometimes people post it on my behalf.


are you referring to photos/video of amateur girls?? point me towards those posts please :)

susansusan 10-23-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by step1models (Post 614633)
are you referring to photos/video of amateur girls?? point me towards those posts please :)

Ah- they tend to be professional models, although I have had some success with "craigslist" type girls Here is an amateur: https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/showthread.php?t=55827&highlight=%22hotel+receptio nist%22

grg99 10-23-2009 07:02 PM

Hoo ah
 
Sara is heartbreakingly beautiful.

step1models 10-24-2009 08:20 AM

3 more scenes to go...
 
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Thanks to everyone giving feedback....

Would anyone be interested in a pay site featuring this kind of stuff? Or, are we just spinning our wheels?

I will upload the last set of naked twister later today.

Enjoy your weekend

btw: we do stay in contact with all of our models and they are always interested in follow ups (not to mention girls that we have on "hold" because we simply cant afford them :(

...unfortunately, our personalities only get us so far...at the end of the day its all about the $ with many of these girls...this is our attempt to solve that problem....

atomic_monkey 10-24-2009 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by step1models (Post 614562)
we just go to the next level in order to truely get the girl next door. there is no bigger rush than knowing you talked a sweet innocent girl into getting naked for you....

we are doing this because we are sick of sites telling us that they get real amateurs and then we watch and see obvious acting and girls that are on other sites!! who's with me??!!! lol

i TOTALLY agree with you. my tastes and philosophies are completely in line with yours. thank you so much and keep up the great work. you are my hero.

desi 10-24-2009 10:01 AM

I'm speechless at the moment, I love this so much. EXACTLY the type of thing I've been seeking for years. Maybe one day I'll have the balls (and bucks, lol) to do something similar myself.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

ripper12 10-24-2009 10:16 AM

In all my years of posting and viewing threads on this site....this has to be the best thread i have ever seen...i would go as far as to say this even out does the Cheating Teacher thread that everyone has waited for updates on...:D:D:D

Well done

step1models 10-24-2009 10:31 AM

thanks for the support
 
well Desi...maybe someday you can! but for now we need all the support we can get...we envision something amazing and exclusive...

we know how to do it...and we aren't afraid to share it with you...but we need a sizeable and loyal following to make it happen and to make it worthwhile..

like i said we did this for fun in college...economy really blows right now and we decided to see if we couldnt do this for real....my partner and i have vowed to never turn into the mainstream site if the opportunity ever arose...our niche will be TRUE amateurs

with our HD videos and our relentless pursuit in recruiting we are going to try to keep it as REAL as possible for you...we want you to be able to experience the thrill we have enjoyed for so many years at a fraction of the cost...that is our offer to everyone

we do not go to your typical modeling sites and schedule appointments for models...we are ALL over...we are in the bars pitching to all the college cuties, campuses, at the mall, grocery store, anywhere we can recruit effectively...i loved girls gone wild for a long time until they started recruiting porn stars and it became obvious it was all staged...i have seen this happen to way too many sites...some of my old favorites (i wont mention here) have SOLD OUT...

i have spent the last several months editing videos and working on compression settings to get the best vid quality/file size ratio possible...(after shooting in HD it is difficult for me to watch or imagine presenting anything less than that)....we have even started going back to models we used to shoot for fun and gotten model releases...

i dont think anyone can do what we do right now...and yes this is a pitch to this entire community that enjoys this to support us because we KNOW we are the BEST in this niche and we WILL work hard to get the best models our budgets will allow...

have we shot girls from modeling sites - yes...but by and far most are not from these sites...but you will see if we do shoot girls from modeling sites our shoots are entertaining, visually and verbally...

it has been a pleasure posting here and seeing the support....i will post the twister scenes now

desi 10-24-2009 10:39 AM

You have my support! Can't wait until your site is up and running. I will definitely become a member.

Thanks also to Alex for letting you post here and share these fantastic vids.

step1models 10-24-2009 10:45 AM

yes..thank you Alex
 
Alex is the only reason you are learning about us

Thanks Alex!

step1models 10-24-2009 11:12 AM

Twister Finale - pt 1
 
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part 1 of 2

step1models 10-24-2009 11:38 AM

Twister Finale - pt 2
 
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pt 2/2

that's all folks

have a good weekend

dbguy 10-24-2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjmymjmy (Post 614996)
great stuff, it really is. i would join your site in a heart beat. there is something about girls before they get jaded by the porn industry that makes this type of videos phenonmonal. thanks again

I agree with the above statement completely.

Really awesome job!

onlyheubsch 10-24-2009 10:29 PM

Nobel Prize
 
Yeah with continued finessing of the taped models like ya do, you ought to have some great vids to compile into a quality site!

THX again !:)

bob100 10-25-2009 01:40 PM

Definitely a much needed breath of fresh, non-jaded, non-hooker air. I would pay for something like this, but it would depend on cost, and a few other things.

1) Reasonable monthly membership with unlimited downloads and frequently updated content.
2) Ability to download HQ full videos of shoots
3) Ability to pay through a service like paypal so I don't have to share my CC number.

Great stuff - thanks for the preview.

atomic_monkey 10-25-2009 02:47 PM

i love how you interview the girls first so that we can find out some generic stuff about them like how old they are and where they work, etc. makes them seem more like a read person, a real girl next door.

and i like how you ease into the sexual questions. i would love it if you could ask them how they lost their virginity, or the first time they gave a blow job, or how old they were when they first started masturbating. i love "first time" stories. i realize that you need word such questions carefully, so that they don't seem creepy or threatening to too explicit. i understand that part of your system is to come across as a laid back, normal guy so that the girl feels safe and at ease. but you seem to have a knack for words, so i'm sure you could find away to bring up those questions in a fairly innocent way.

oh, and i would definitely subscribe to your site. someone suggested pay pal and i agree with that.

step1models 10-25-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomic_monkey (Post 615506)
i love how you interview the girls first so that we can find out some generic stuff about them like how old they are and where they work, etc. makes them seem more like a read person, a real girl next door.

and i like how you ease into the sexual questions. i would love it if you could ask them how they lost their virginity, or the first time they gave a blow job, or how old they were when they first started masturbating. i love "first time" stories. i realize that you need word such questions carefully, so that they don't seem creepy or threatening to too explicit. i understand that part of your system is to come across as a laid back, normal guy so that the girl feels safe and at ease. but you seem to have a knack for words, so i'm sure you could find away to bring up those questions in a fairly innocent way.

oh, and i would definitely subscribe to your site. someone suggested pay pal and i agree with that.


actually... in most of our vids we do ask those questions :) my partner does the more explicit vids with new girls and in his interviews he asks about virginity, fantasies etc ... he should be posting soon.. and i'll make sure to include first time questions from now on... just so you know... we are using ccbill for our site. it is completely secure and is the most used system. thanks for all the feedback guys!

step1models 10-25-2009 03:08 PM

Thank you atomic monkey!

It is a balancing act for sure. And i am a very straightforward guy. Our recruiting is intensive - that is the only way this works...You have to let the model get to know you somewhat = time + money :(

I have interviewed on these types of questions in the past so sure....that day with sara i did not have my interview list so i was flying off memory - oops....i have often used search sites to find amateur girls talking of these sort of things to no avail...what inspired me to start incorporating it into my shoots...trying to convince my partner too, but he tends to do it while shooting...

we are going to use ccBill as paypals terms (no adult content/nudity/etc) conflict with our site...plus many other adult sites use ccbill and it has always been reliable for me and many i have talked to....ccBill has secure, reliable, and discrete processing...

starting out vids will be sold separately as high def vids EAT bandwidth (1gb with each play) and bandwidth is far too expensive for us to just allow people to watch these all day long...i wish this weren't the case, but you will have to download them after purchase to enjoy forever. In the future as we grow we may consider a membership system of some sort but we have to do this for now. we are not a big site like the others so we cant be effective any other way. we hope you can understand

ps - sara just texted me...she had a magnificent time in vegas :) and wants to shoot again :)

susansusan 10-25-2009 03:50 PM

This all sounds great, yeah! :)

To give my own opinion- I'd be happy to support a paysite, and think it would be OK to promote it through here (just my opinion, I'm not a mod) BUT if you are using One Click Chicks to promote your site, I would like to see regular, good quality (ie including nude and explicit) videos uploaded here on a regualr basis too. That sounds like a fair exchange- you offer the One click chickers great regular videos, in return you promote your site, which generates income. Everyone is happy!

Possibly , for example, have some models who have the full range of clips , upto the nudest/most explicit posted here, and some models whoes videos remain exclusive to your own site.

What I don't think would work is if you JUST posted teaser clips. There are, after all, many many many websites that offer this service. :)

susansusan 10-25-2009 04:04 PM

Also, I read on your group "Model I shot a while ago. We couldnt pay her enough to get a FULL release for our sites".

As a point of interest, are you sure that is required?

I'm in England, and here a release is NOT a legal requirement to use photographs that are self taken. The copyright remains with the photographer, regardless of whether or not a "release" was signed.

However, sometimes a publication will insist on one.

But yeah, unless there was a binding agreement that the photos would NOT be used, likewise the video, then (in England at least) you can use them.

step1models 10-25-2009 05:04 PM

idk
 
idk what sort of arrangement Alex would want to make. All I know is we dont intend to tease you like many other pay sites - that was never my intention...in fact, that is why i chose this forum...i dont want our stuff all over the internet! we do, however, desire to make a living (not get filthy rich) doing this...that said, we would love to continue to update this community and be an active participant if it is fruitful and beneficial for all of us...

this site is very addicting btw...Alex did a great job putting this framework together...I applaud all the mods as well and senior members...We truly appreciate your feedback!

step1models 10-25-2009 07:49 PM

Webmasters...
 
We are curious if anyone knows any good webmasters that may be interested in talking to us. We have a feeling we are going to need someone to manage the day-to-day technical aspects of our site so we can focus on what we do best - recruiting and doing the shoots.

thanks for your help!

atomic_monkey 10-25-2009 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by step1models (Post 615514)
i have often used search sites to find amateur girls talking of these sort of things to no avail...what inspired me to start incorporating it into my shoots...trying to convince my partner too, but he tends to do it while shooting...

years ago i use to rent "Dirty Debutantes" videos (Ed Powers / Nasty Brothers). they featured girls who were in a way amateurs (they had never done porn before) but they were hoping to break into the business. they vids were, in essence, their auditions. not as pure as your vids, but they were ok.

anyway, the vids would always start with Ed Powers interviewing them for about ten minutes first. like you, he'd start with basic biographical questions to relax them and you let you get to know their personalities, then he'd ease into questions about their sexual resumes. i loved that! and i'm so glad you're taking a similar approach.

speaking of which, in addition to learning about them losing their virginity, giving head for the first time, masturbating for the first time, etc, i'd also like to know if they've ever had and girl-on-girl experiences. and i'm not talking about being drunk at a party and making out with another chick simply to put on a show for the guys -- i'm talking about them hooking up with a chick because the idea of being with a girl excited them.

atomic_monkey 10-25-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by step1models (Post 615514)
we are going to use ccBill as paypals terms (no adult content/nudity/etc) conflict with our site...plus many other adult sites use ccbill and it has always been reliable for me and many i have talked to....ccBill has secure, reliable, and discrete processing...


ccBill is safe and reliable. i'm happy to use it. but just to clarify, i think the reason some people were hoping for paypay is because a "paypal" charge on your credit card statement is less conspicuous than a "ccBill' charge. a paypaly charge could be anthing, but a ccBill charge (though not explicit) is almost always porn. if someone in your family like a spouse or parent sees your credit card statement, this could raise questions.

step1models 10-25-2009 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomic_monkey (Post 615695)
ccBill is safe and reliable. i'm happy to use it. but just to clarify, i think the reason some people were hoping for paypay is because a "paypal" charge on your credit card statement is less conspicuous than a "ccBill' charge. a paypaly charge could be anthing, but a ccBill charge (though not explicit) is almost always porn. if someone in your family like a spouse or parent sees your credit card statement, this could raise questions.


i have a friend who always has to worry about his girl seeing his statements... he is now using pre-paid debit cards for anything he buys online. i guess you can get these at wal-mart etc... just thought it might be helpful if anyone was curious :)

step1models 10-26-2009 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomic_monkey (Post 615694)
years ago i use to rent "Dirty Debutantes" videos (Ed Powers / Nasty Brothers). they featured girls who were in a way amateurs (they had never done porn before) but they were hoping to break into the business. they vids were, in essence, their auditions. not as pure as your vids, but they were ok.

anyway, the vids would always start with Ed Powers interviewing them for about ten minutes first. like you, he'd start with basic biographical questions to relax them and you let you get to know their personalities, then he'd ease into questions about their sexual resumes. i loved that! and i'm so glad you're taking a similar approach.

speaking of which, in addition to learning about them losing their virginity, giving head for the first time, masturbating for the first time, etc, i'd also like to know if they've ever had and girl-on-girl experiences. and i'm not talking about being drunk at a party and making out with another chick simply to put on a show for the guys -- i'm talking about them hooking up with a chick because the idea of being with a girl excited them.

I too used to rent these actually! His vids were great...I am happy to ask the girls questions for you if I can...sometimes, I can't "risk" it with initial shoots simply because I don't want to scare them. Some do not want to do "porn" and these questions would simply not work. However, money seems to talk once they know I am for real.. We are your ambassadors if you will and, believe me, we want to see as much as we can just like you! My partner said we are "fighting amateur porn terrorism." In many respects I think this is true.

sbl3815 10-27-2009 05:17 AM

haven't begun yet to look...
 
but from the cap and the story, i'm eager to see that this is genuine. And 8 pages of replies (again, haven't taken so much as a peek yet) in 6 days - that sure smacks of feedback, to me! An anticipatory 'thanks' and 'well done,' Mr. Model.

step1models 10-28-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbl3815 (Post 616206)
but from the cap and the story, i'm eager to see that this is genuine. And 8 pages of replies (again, haven't taken so much as a peek yet) in 6 days - that sure smacks of feedback, to me! An anticipatory 'thanks' and 'well done,' Mr. Model.


well please be sure to let us know your thoughts once you have viewed everything :)

sbl3815 10-29-2009 02:45 AM

Looks great! I've gotta say that your video has a very genuine, informal, professionalamateur feel. You must work as hard as you say to recruit either real neo-models, or exceptionally good actresses (and if that's the case, it's only a matter of time before you're booking them on Broadway and Hollywood!) Appears to me that you and your partner will have one helluva product! Of course, we can tell by that product that you are some kind of extraordinary pitch man, so you could just have me suckered ;)

You've recognized a hefty niche, and it's one not easily duplicated. May you make your art and your success together.

step1models 10-29-2009 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbl3815 (Post 617037)
Looks great! I've gotta say that your video has a very genuine, informal, professionalamateur feel. You must work as hard as you say to recruit either real neo-models, or exceptionally good actresses (and if that's the case, it's only a matter of time before you're booking them on Broadway and Hollywood!) Appears to me that you and your partner will have one helluva product! Of course, we can tell by that product that you are some kind of extraordinary pitch man, so you could just have me suckered ;)

You've recognized a hefty niche, and it's one not easily duplicated. May you make your art and your success together.


now THAT is what i call feedback!! wow!! it means a lot to both of us to see things like this. we have been through ups and downs and we were close to quitting at one point. thank you kind sir. comments like this remind us that hard work pays off! :) we started doing this because we are sick of the acting, the pro amateurs, the strippers and seasoned porn girls and we promise we will never sell out. we put our all into this and we will continue to bring you only the best. we are still waiting for the go-ahead from visa and will let you know the minute we do!! *weeping tears of joy* ;)

susansusan 10-29-2009 04:41 AM

All sounds good- so, dare I ask, is there any more footage you have for us? :D

step1models 10-29-2009 06:32 AM

More Footage...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by susansusan (Post 617057)
All sounds good- so, dare I ask, is there any more footage you have for us? :D

We will have more footage on our site as soon as we get approval for Visa. Like i said, we do intend to be an active contributor to this community...Right now we are going to launch our site, see how that goes, and then decide what kind of relationship we can have here...

thanks for the support!

step1models 10-30-2009 01:56 PM

UPDATE
 
ok we have approval from visa. now we are waiting for approval from ccbil on my first video for the site. we are almost ready folks... wooohoo!!! i'll let you know when we're all set.


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