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Hello everyone, this is my first post here. Hope it's okay for me to contribute to this thread.

I am glad to see that someone else than myself likes these kind of fights. I agree that the humiliation factor gets bigger if it's one sided.

It bothers me that there are so few clips (or stories) on the web with this topic. The majority ends up with both "contestants" stripped of all their clothes, and I'm kind of tired of that. Therefore I enjoy this thread, and have (finally) decided to contribute myself.

First of all, I will give credit to Helen's stories. I read Justicia some days ago, and I really liked it. But, as Cigar (I think) wrote, the build-up is really long. I'm sure many people like that, and I don't say that it's a bad thing with a story to the fight, but got a little impatient before I got to the fight itself. Then again, you are a superb writer, Helen!

As for frrio's scenario, that was great.

If you don't mind, I want to post a scenario as well. It's not that hardcore, but I hope you at least think it's okay.

-- The first girl, the victim, is a fit blonde. She's a gorgeous cheerleader. We can put a name on her as well; her name is Camilla. She is a shy girl that don't even dare to shower naked among the other girls in the group. She don't even dare to show herself barefooted, she always have shoes or socks on.

-- The second girl, the winner, is a brunette. She is tough, and has a problem with the blonde, Camilla. The brunette's name can be Victoria, and is a cheerleader as well. Camilla is clearly better looking than Victoria.

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It's tuesday, and the cheerleader-practice is almost over. Camilla and Victoria have just practiced the part where only the two of them perform a duett. The big day is on saturday, and the whole school + more are coming to watch. Camilla seems to have a problem with the performance, and Victoria is getting sick of it. "Fucking b*tch, you suck at this!", she yells out to Camilla. Camilla respond to her: "It's not my fault that you can't co-operate", and turns her back to Victoria. Camilla should never have done this, because Victoria hate criticism. Since she is so sensitive on this, she decided to take revenge. But how?

In the changing room later on, Victoria gets out of the shower, only to see Camilla walk out of the room dressed as she was in the practice. Then she remember the shyness of Camilla, and the idea slowly comes to her head. She calls her two friends over, Linda and Amy. She tells them about the plan, to the two friends high and evil laughter...

It's finally saturday. Victoria and Camilla is dressed up and ready for the show. They are both wearing black outfits. A black top, black skirts and shoes (with socks). Camilla is also using (black) hotpants, not a thong, in case of a blunder on stage.

The show starts, and gets to the point where Camilla and Victoria are performing their little duett. Camilla blows it this time too, and falls to the ground. Just as Victoria planned... She starts to yell at Camilla, and tell her how stupid she is, before she take her legs up towards her own face. With force, Victoria strips Camilla off her shoes and socks, with Camilla screaming "NOO! PLEASE!" in horror. Camilla, now barefooted, gets to her feet and starts running towards the exit. No problem for Victoria, because at the exit, Camilla is blocked by Linda and Amy. The two friends drag her back on the floor, throwing her to the ground. Victoria sits on Camilla, and starts slapping her in the face. She turns around, and rips her skirt off, showing the black hotpants. Camilla is screaming in horror, as Victoria is stripping her off her top too. Now she is only in her underwear AND barefooted.

After dragging Camilla around the floor for a while, Victoria hands her over to her two friends again. They lift her back on her feet, holding her in front of Victoria. "Everyone... I will show you something you have never seen before", Victoria tells the excited audience, as she rips open her bra and expose Camilla's nipples wide open, with Camilla screaming loudly. But Victoria is not finished. Amy and Linda is taking her over to the bench where all the players are sitting, tips her over with her ass in the air, ass against all the crowd. And Victoria...

The only thing Camilla is wearing at the moment, is the black hotpants. Victoria place her hands on the hotpants, teasing the crowd by pretending to rip it off, but she doesn't do it yet. She spanks Camilla over and over again, before she sets in the deadly move... "I know all of you have wanted to see THIS (while ripping it off) many years!", with Camilla now totally naked and so humiliated that she just wanted to die. She then lifts Camilla on her shoulders, walking around in a lap of honor.

What happends next?

Well, I hope this is okay for my first contribution here. Looking forward to keep the thread alive!

PS! I'm sorry for my badly written English, as English is not my mother language.

Wow! !

Great story Hans!

What does happen next?

Lets see we can have Victoria let Camilla go after the parade and watch her run through the crowd all red faced, and embarrassed with her tushy swinging and being unmercifully groped by the appreciative audience. Or, we can have her torment continue. Just what does happen next?

Talking of scenarios, I think it would be great to combine two of my favorite interests in one situationer. Strip poker and humiliating, one sided catfight. Any takes on this?

I like the idea of both. How about a mix of the two scenarios? And do you, Helen, want to write part two of the story?:cool:

That goes in for the next point you mention, the combination of two situations in one story of one sided catfights. Great idea! Want to post an example of it?

As you can see in my last post, I obviously have a thing for watching cheerleaders get humiliated in catfights. Why? Because everyone's watching! Except for that, I also like beach fights, because both sides are so vulnerable, but one of them is smarter than the other!

The fight's ending in a story is also important, I think. What does the humiliated girl have to do after the fight? Does she have to run stark naked home, or is she (for example) tied up in front of everyone to see?

I'm glad you enjoyed the story, by the way!

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Hi folks.

First, some good news. I have completed the Jackie Kennedy vs. Marilyn Monroe one-sided fantasy CFNF fight.

My question is, should I post it on this thread, or begin a new thread? I initially thought of starting a new thread, but in the past few days, this thread has really begun to snowball with interest.

I don't want to diminsh this thread by starting a new one, but my story is so long that it may deserve a thread of its own.

Help me guys, what should I do?

Also, to Hans, don't be ashamed of your English. You did fine. I knew exactly where you were going with the piece.

And again, thanks to Helen for posting great on-topic photos which add so much to this thread.

I couldn't be happier with the response we have recieved on this form of ENF.

Hi Cigar.

I'd say post it here.

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You know, Hans makes a good point about what happens after a fight to a stripped woman.

The question is: Has she suffered enough by being naked in a situation where her opponent and everyone else in the crowd is clothed or should more humiliation be heaped on her by forcing the naked lady to at least go to the lockeroom – or better yet home -- naked?

That brings me to yet another pet peeve I have with some of the videos that are being produced today.
Even in that rare match where the producers get it right and have one clothed girl dominate and strip her opponent, the winner in most cases leaves behind the loser’s bikini so that the loser, after she wakes up, I guess has something to wear back to the lockerroom. Why do that?

In an otherwise great video produced by Women’s World u of Florida, brunette Angel Riptide (aka Angel Cruz), wearing a red velvet one-piece swimsuit, wins a great five falls match against blond ring vetran Jill Monroe in a blue bikini.

As the announcer is declaring Angel’s victory, Angel shouts “winner takes all.” She then strips Jill, but takes nothing. She instead tosses Jill’s bikini a few feet away in the ring. She poses over naked Jill, which is sexy as hell, then bows to the camera and walks off without Jill’s bikini.

The camera pans Jill’s nude, unconscious body. (Again, you can see this video on YouTube because the nudity is only of Jill’s backside.) But Jill needs only to awake, slip her bikini on and walk back to the lockers.

And even in matches where the victorious woman does take her opponent’s suit with her, the video without fail ends at that point with the camera going up and down the naked woman’s unconscious body.

How about keeping the video tape rolling, following the awakened and humiliated girl around for a while as she tries – and fails -- to scrounge up something to cover her nudity?

I’d like to see some company produce a video where you see only the end of the fight with the clothed winner standing over the naked loser and keeping her bikini as a souvenir, leaving her unconscious foe sprawled in the ring.

The rest of the video would show the aftermath of the poor loser waking up and being teased by two swimsuit-clad women in the ring for the next match. They inform the nude woman that her opponent left the ring several minutes ago with her suit, robe and towel in hand.

The naked woman trudges past other clothed women in the gym, getting ridiculed along the way, and gets back to the locker room where other clothed gals laugh at her for having been humiliated in the match.

Our gal can’t find a towel to cover herself with and goes to her locker to find a note from her opponent that the clothed woman got into her locker and cleaned it out of all of the clothes she came to the gym with.

However, she left the nude woman her purse, car keys and house keys.

The nude woman storms into the club manager’s office to complain about the theft of her clothing only to be told he doesn’t want to get involved and that the matter would best be settled between her and her oponent.

The nude girl searches the building to find her clothed opponent but after more taunting from other clothed women she passes she soon gets frustrated and decides to sneak out to her car after dark and drive home.

The rest of the video would include incidents where the nude woman would barely avoid being arrested for public indecent exposure as she finds her way home.

The video could end with the embarassed woman finally making it home only to switch on her livingroom light and be confronted by her clothed opponent and 20 other clothed women from the gym who force the nude woman to wrestle the clothed one who lays another ass whipping on her.

The idea of the CFNF fight fantasy is that the main reason you strip your opponent is to humiliate her beyond words – make her wish she could crawl into a hole and just die from stark naked embarrassment.

It makes no sense for one woman to strip another in a fight if she is going to leave the nude woman’s swimsuit in the middle of the ring to put on and wear back to the dressing room after the match.

The match does not have to go to the extent of the one I described above, but there should be some lasting humiliation beyond the initial stripping, even if it is just to force the naked gal to return to the lockerroom sans suit and videotape that part of the humiliating ordeal.

Hi everyone!

This thread rocks. lots of wonderful stories and snippets of nude female humiliation caused by another clothed female. Mean aren't we.

First, for Hans, I think I would go easy on camilla here considering she is so shy and conservative that she might just try and end it all if we push her too far. In fact, her ordeal at your hands would no doubt require years of expensive therapy just to get over, if at all. Your bad.

Anyway, while Victoria has Camilla d****d over her shoulder in her victory lap, she would occassionaly reach up and mischevously swat the nudie's bared posterior to the delight of the crowd. She would also purposely pause in front of some lucky spectator and invite him/or her to join in the fun, and whail upon poor Camilla's doomed ass. This of course was thoroughly enjoyed, and much appreciated by the unruly crowd, who roared out their approval of the poor girls debasement. Especially, when the lucky participants come up with variations in their administration of Camilla's humiliation, by openly fondling her exposed privates instead of just spanking her ass.

After Victoria's victory lap, she drops the naked Camilla on her feet and quickly steps behind her in a full nelson. After first ensuring Camila is facing the crowd, Victoria plops herself on the floor, taking the poor Camilla down with her. At this point the two ladies are now sitting on the floor back to front, facing the huge crowd, with Camilla's boobs all bared to the world while her tightly criss-crossed legs and feet are the only things that keep her from total exposure. That is, for the moment.

After allowing Camilla a few seconds of respite to provide her with a false sence of security that no further ignominy would be heaped upon her, Victoria would without warning, slowly and irresistably bend over backwards which would cause Camilla to arch her back sharply, giving the crowd a most unobstructive view of the nude's exposed breasts. At the same time, Victoria's long legs hooked unto Camilla's own and irresolutely drew them wide apart to finally provide the public with a sight only Camilla's doctor had heretofore was privileged with. Needless to say the mob was mesmerized by the vision before them, that a deathly silence permeated the once rambunctious hall.

As the mob stood mouths agape and mesmerized by Camilla's charm, they did not notice that Victoria's two friends Amy and Linda had joined the tableaux before them. Both girls took up their positions on either side of the cfnf couple and to the consternation and pleasant surprise to all present, lay their hands on the nude Camilla and fondled her right in front of them all. This latest assault on the lone nudie by her clothed assailants brought the crowd back to life and once again the place was filled with enthusiastic and ribald, and crude cheers and jeers for the four women performing in front of them, only one of whom was absolutely and completely naked.

Lets see, as Victoria continued to ensure the nude Camilla's complete exposure with her full nelson hold and prying of the opponent's legs open maneuver, her two cohorts would be busilly fondling the naked one's exposed sex unmercifully. Amy gently rubbing and carressing her now tightening breasts and their environs, while Linda would be putting all her attention to stimulate Camilla's sopping c**t with the digits of her fingers, and then a foreign object, like a bottle or something.

On and on the three harridans molest and seek to stimulate their hapless victim no end, till at last she starts to react to all the ministrations her body has been made to endure.

However, just as she was sensed to be on the verge of coming, her three tormentors maliciously stopped and drew away from her leaving her high and dry, just as she was building up to the most humungous orgasm ever.

So what was she to do. Unfortunately for her, her carnal instincts took over. Her hands just flew at her sex to continue what was so suddenly and cruelly left off. As she was finally able to get herself off to an earth shattering climax, she momentarily lost all account of her surroundings and for a moment was bask in the afterglow of her much needed orgasm. That is until she finally noticed the derisive laughter of her three tormentors looming over her, all comfortably dressed and mocking her naked form by their feet. Their jeers were quickly taken up by the mob who soon filled the erstwhile silent hall with their taunts.

In utter humiliation, our naked lass finally summons the panic to run pell mell through the crowd. Lucky for her the three girls just lets her go, but the crowd is not so obliging. As she runs pass all the clothed people to make her escape, she has to endure their unwelcome hands on her naked flesh. Every exposed skin of hers was fair game for them to fondle and molest, and to a man or woman lucky enough to be close by, was a target too good not to be sought after.

As Camilla torturously made her way through the crowd to get to the locker room, Victoria and her two friends could not help but share a conspiratorial smile with each other since they all knew that Camilla would find no solace at all when she reaches the lockers, since they had earlier purloined all her clothes from her locker, leaving her absolutely nothing to cover up with. With a chuckle they made their way to the lockers themselves hand in hand, whistling a happy tune.

Hey, I hope you guys don't mind me posting a follow up to my own post, but to be honest just as I submitted the earlier one, I still had a few things more to say. Sorry for any inconvenience to anyone.

Hi Cigar!

Your right, the censoring in this site is a bit strict. In my last post I used the word "d****" but it came out censored and asterixed. Also, I noticed that some pictures I earlier posted in other threads have been removed for one ofense or another. Hmmm. . .guess being guests here we must follow the owner of the house.

About your Jackie and Marilyn story go ahead and post it anywhere. I know I gave my view that you should post it here in order to keep your thread a sort of "one stop shop" venue for cfnf fights, I understand your sentiment to having your story have a special thread of its own, with nothing else to share the limelight. Hey, whatever you want do it.

I completely agree to your Angel and Jill insights. Thanks to you I caught their battles on youtube, and to be honest found them boring in the end. Even Jill's stripping scene was hohum to me considering she was supposedly unconcious the whole time she was defrocked. Boring! ! !

For me it would be best if the loser is wide awake for her stripping and we can all appreciate her panicked look while she is being humiliated beyond words.

To be honest, although formal wrestling matches are ok in my book, as you may have guessed, my cup of tea are down and dirty catfights where the women fight not in wrestling costumes, but are decked out in regular clothes at the start, with only one having to lose every stitch she has on in the end, and much, much more.

I also loved your synopsis for the cfnf fight. I like how your progression of the naked woman went after the fight. I think it would be a good idea for a film to focus on the aftermath of a fight, rather on the fight itself. It could begin with one of the fighter's waking up nude in the ring with her costume no where in sight and progresses down hill from there for our nudie.

I p-articularly liked the idea having the nude face her fully clothed opponent in her own house and getting another ass kicking in the process.

Hey, maybe you can expand your mistress and wife story to include a scene where the nude wife somehow gets home only to find her husband in the arms of his still clothed mistress, and has to fight her once more, this time with the loser having to leave the marital home absolutely naked and with nothing to her name. I guess we all know who we would want on top here.

Would anyone like to do a writeup on this?

Meanwhile, I found a very interesting pic. Any one like to do a tale on this? (On closer examination of the androgynous features of the one tied up I cannot 100 % certify it is female. Lets assume it is shall we and ponder the dire situation she finds herself in. )

Love

Helen

Hemo nice pic! I'll get round to sendin you the vid as and when ( on the other comp for now ) I agree, I checked the youtube vids...very borin I must say.

How about Helen, take for instance your the CF - is there any body you know of ( I dont know near where you live, orr work ) that you'd just love to bring down..? Thatd make for good reading! Or hey hum a make believe girl / or female celeb! You could write it as though me cigar etc are there witenessing! ..include some stripping / bare butt exexpoure, otk spankings for me though haha ; - )

Update on the Candis Humilaition - Should be arriving next week so i'll post then.

Frrio,

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The following story is a work of fiction featuring a fantasy CFNF fight between Jackie Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe in early August 1962. However some of the events surrounding the ENF fantasy catfight did happen. The reason I used some actual facts from that period was to add a bit of realism to the story. The problem I had writing this piece is that I could not make it a knockdown, dragout catfight to the death because even in those days before modern DNA testing, a coroner would have ruled Marilyn’s death a murder if Marilyn’s body was covered with many visible scratches and bruises. And if Jackie also sustained bruises, it would have made Mrs. Kennedy a potential suspect in the killing of Miss Monroe. So the fantasy fight had to be carefully written. Given that limitation, I tried to create a fun, yet somewhat realistic CFNF fighting scenario. Also, although I have been critical of Hemo101 for taking too long in her writings to set the scene before the actual fight sequences, this piece also has a long lead-up to the fight, which I felt was necessary to establish some historical perspective. I hope you enjoy it.

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Jackie vs. Marilyn
By Cigar

The big question during the sultry summer of 1962 was did Jackie know that JFK was having an affair with Marilyn?
Of couse she knew. How could she not?

The gossip around Washington, D.C., after Miss Monroe sang “Happy Birthday Mr. President,” at JFK’s 45th birthday party at Madison Square Garden in late May of that year was rampant.

Mrs. Kennedy, being a lover of listening to and repeating gossip, was well aware of her husband’s infidelity with not only the blond bombshell big screen sexpot, but with other women as well.

So embarassed was Jackie about her husband’s philandering she had even considered divorcing the horndog politico.
But JFK’s dad, Joe Kennedy, would not hear of it. He paid Jackie $1 million to ignore her hubby’s flings and stay married to his son. Had the Catholic president gone through a messy and public divorce surely it would have ruined his – and all of the Kenndeys’ -- political aspirations.

But Marilyn’s public performance, where her breathy rendition of the traditional birthday song was akin to making love to JFK in front of thousands of onlookers, was the last straw for Jackie.

Jackie did not attend that night’s celebration, prefering instead to ride horses in Virginia rather than be publically humiliated at the soiree by Marilyn’s lack of discretion.

Jackie and Marilyn were two of the most iconic women of the 20th century, yet they were as different as night and day. Jackie was a brunette, Marilyn was a blond – albeit of the bleached variety.

Jackie was brought up in high society and was not a violent woman. There is no account she had ever engaged in anything more than a silly pillow fight among sorority sisters at college, let alone a full blown hair-ripping, face-scratching, clothes-tearing battle with another woman.

Marilyn was part of a catty-by-nature industry and reportedly had scraps with jealous women. By all accounts, she handled herself quite well.

Jackie, not initially desiring a physical confrontation with Marilyn, tried to reason with her arch rival when he two women met face-to-face that year at a posh hotel suite at the Pierre Hotel in New York.

There, both women, who talked with similar sweet, whispy baby-doll adult voices, conversed with great civility in a mutual effort to reach an accord over who would be the only one to share the handsome president’s bed.

As Jackie chatted with Marilyn, she wondered how could she blame John for wanting Monroe? What man did not fantasize about MM?

Marilyn had burst onto the scene in 1950, appearing in the films “The Asphalt Jungle” and “All About Eve,” and followed those movies up with the hits “Gentlemen Prefer Blondes,” “How to Marry a Millionaire,” “The Seven Year Itch” and “Some Like it Hot.”

Those films and Monroe’s appearance as the nude centerfold in the initial issue of Playboy established Marilyn as America’s quintessential sex symbol.

Jackie Kennedy also had long been enthralled by Marilyn Monroe.

When Mrs. Kennedy got a job in 1951 as the "Inquiring Camera Girl" for The Washington Times-Herald, one of her man-on-the-street questions was: “If you had a date with Marilyn Monroe, what would you talk about?”
And Marilyn had paid tribute to Jackie by wearing a dark wig and pearls during a Life magazine shoot. Marilyn didn’t date JFK to deliberately hurt Jackie. She simply loved John and wanted him for herself. Jackie unfortunately was just one hurdle in the way of Marilyn’s goals.

Marilyn actually told friends she believed John would divorce Jackie and marry her, making Marilyn JFK’s second First Lady.

Although the two women did not come to blows at that New York meeting, they did not settle the matter over the affair either.

As the months past, Jackie’s admiration for Marilyn slowly turned to boiling hatred as Marilyn’s affair with her husband continued.

Even when JFK broke off the affair with Marilyn following the Mr. President song humiliation, word got back to Jackie that Marilyn still wanted him and was threatening to expose their relationship to the world as an attempt to blackmail John into rekindling their tryst.

Jackie had too much invested in John – emotionally and physically -- to allow that bleached blond tart to ruin his chances at re-election to a second presidential term and a lucrative future following the presidency.

Plus Jackie did not want the world to view her as being unable to keep her man happy and satisfied in the bedroom. What woman would?

Jackie set in motion a plan to rid herself of the Marilyn Monroe problem – forever.


End of Part 1. To be continued ...

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Jackie vs. Marilyn Part 2

Both Jackie and Marilyn had had sexual relationships with Peter Lawford, Marilyn’s neighbor in the influential section of Brentwood in Southern California.

Jackie literally pumped British actor Lawford for information about Marilyn’s comings and goings. She learned that by late July Marilyn was in a depressed state of mind.

More than once, Marilyn had to have her stomach pumped for overdosing on sleeping pills. And Marilyn spent nearly every day at her psychiatrist’s office.

Jackie knew that with Marilyn’s diminished capacity she could defeat her if she could quickly demoralize Marilyn by any means necessary.

When Lawford let it slip to Jackie that Marilyn’s live-in caregiver, Eunice Murray, would be out for the evening of Aug. 4 and that Marilyn would be alone, Jackie saw her window of opportunity to settle the issue once and for all.

Jacqueline Kennedy, who had become a worldwide symbol of fashion for women, decided to wear that night a pink Chanel business suit and knee-length skirt with a wide black collar, her trademark matching pink pillbox hat, pink (size 10 AA) stiletto heels and white gloves.

Underneath, she put on a conservative pink one-piece swimsuit, similar to what she had seen women wrestlers wear on televised pro wrestling matches.

Jackie really didn’t know what to wear to a catfight, having never been in one before. She simply felt she would wear the clothes she was used to wearing to provide her the most comfort and security.


Fight Prelude


After shaking off her Secret Service bodyguards, Jackie sat in a rental car a short distance from Marilyn’s Mexican-style bungalow shortly after dark going over how she was going to bring Marilyn down.

She pondered how the two women indeed were a study in contrasts.

Jackie Bouvier was the pristine society girl who enjoyed a meteoric rise to the top. Marilyn, born Norma Jeane Baker, was the bastard daughter of a woman who went insane and a father who abandoned Marilyn early on, forcing Marilyn to claw her way to the top inch-by-inch.

While Jackie was a handsome and romantic lady, Marilyn beamed with the sexual radiance of a thousand white suns. Jackie was thin and angular. Marilyn was curvy with a terrific set of boobs.

JFK had met both women in 1951. He was taken by both Marilyn’s sex-goddess status and Jackie’s prim and proper lady-like demeanor. He could marry only one, and chose Jackie because she would better further his political ambitions.

But for 11 years, playboy John kept seeing the movie star Marilyn and, in the process, she became a serious rival to his wife.

But, Jackie had an advantage knowing that Marilyn had underrated the demure Jackie’s passion for revenge.
Willi Frischauer, who wrote a biography for billionaire Artistotle Onassis, Jackie’s future husband, later would describe Jackie as “a diamond -- cool, sharp at the edges, fiery and hot beneath the surface.”

As if Jackie needed any more encouragement to beat up Marilyn, she thumbed through a secret file a friend had given her about John and Marilyn’s affair.

She steamed as she read how Marilyn had bedded not only her husband, but also her husband’s brother Bobby – at practically the same time. Marilyn was often seen dancing or having intimate conversations at private parties with Bobby or John, the documents showed.

Jackie thumbed through FBI documents that said the Mafia was keeping an eye on Marilyn who was clueless about how much danger she was in.

If worse had come to worse that night and Jackie had to use the gun she carried in her purse to shoot Marilyn gangland style, Jackie thought organized crime figures would be the perfect scapgoat for the murder.

Meanwhile, Jackie cringed as she read about how John would meet Marilyn at Lawford’s home and the two would make love in a big bathtub or in the shower.

Jackie read another account that in March of that year Marilyn and John had spent a weekend alone together in Palm Springs, Fla.

There was no question in Jackie’s mind that somehow she had to get Marilyn naked during the fight and abuse the very parts of Marilyn’s great body that had brought her husband so much pleasure.

If Jackie had any thoughts of turning back at that point, they quickly disappeared as she looked over phone records that showed John had given Marilyn his private number so that she could reach him anytime through the Justice Department.

“I’ll fix her,” Jackie thought.


The Fight


Jackie exhaled. “No time like the present,” she said aloud to herself.

Jackie got out of her rental car, grabbed her tripod, camera and purse, walked to Marilyn’s front door and knocked.
Marilyn, not expecting any company that night, went to answer the door wearing just a sheer blue babydoll nightie –no bra or panties – and a pair of high-heeled open-toed slippers with tiny blue feather decorations on top.

Thinking that it was her friends, B movie actress Jeanne Carmen or movie star Terry Moore, coming by to pay an unannounced visit, Marilyn was shocked to see Jackie Kennedy standing there in the doorway.

Both women’s eyes were as large a saucers as they looked at each other – Jackie because Marilyn was nearly naked and Marilyn because in her wildest nightmares she could not imagine the First Lady visiting her.

Not one to waste a golden opportunity, Jackie thought quickly, grabbed the front of Marilyn’s nightie and tore it off in one swoop. Then Jackie kicked out with her right foot, catching Marilyn between her big boobs and sending the starlet sprawling on her livingroom floor, legs spread.

Jackie came in, closed the door and locked it. She put down her camera equipment as a shaken Marilyn propped herself up on both elbows. Jackie quickly put the sharply pointed toe of her high heel shoe on Marilyn’s pubic bone and said, “Not so fast. We have to talk.”

End of Part 2. To be continued ...

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Jackie vs. Marilyn Part 3

Marilyn froze. She began to cry over her already hopeless situation.

Things had worked out better than Jackie could have dreamed. The fight had not even started and there was Marilyn nude and defenseless, her privates pressed under Jackie’s aristocratically long foot.

“My dear, Marilyn, I warned you to stay away from Jack, but you didn’t listen to me and now the time for talking is over,” Jackie said in a calm, yet demanding tone. “Now we’ll settle things woman-to-woman.”

“But he loves me – I know it – and he doesn’t love you anymore,” Marilyn protested as tears rolled down her cheeks.
With rocket-like precision, Jackie reared back and kicked Marilyn squarely in the crotch with her long, pointed shoe, causing Marilyn’s own dainty size 6 ½ slippers to fly off her feet and across the room.

Marilyn clutched her wounded sex as she rolled on her back, her feet flat on the ground. Jackie followed up by stomping on Marilyn’s toes with her stiletto shoes, causing Marilyn to scream again and roll on her side, her sore toes wiggling in the air to relieve the sharp, stabbing pain.

Jackie grabbed Marilyn by both nipples and hoisted her to her sore feet. Jackie then slowly twisted each pink nub as she dragged Marilyn to her couch and the two women carefully sat down together.

Jackie continued to twist Marilyn’s nipples as she read off all of Marilyn’s past transgressions. Marilyn grabbed Jackie’s wrists and listened intently to Jackie as she wimpered, her eyes darting back and forth from Jackie’s cold, steely eyes to her torturing fingertips.

Jackie also continued to use the toe-end of her stylish shoes to crush Marilyn’s bare toes, but the pain in Marilyn’s nipples was so intense she could not feel the stinging pain in her feet.

After several minutes of tit and foot torture, Jackie stood up and allowed Marilyn to rub her aching nipples and toes.
During that timeout, Jackie went to Marilyn’s bathroom medicine chest and came back with a bottle of barbiturates and a glass of water. She also had pulled the gun from her purse and aimed it at the starlet’s head.

“I don’t want to have to shoot you in your pretty face Marilyn, but you can understand that I mean business and I will if I have to,” Jackie said as Marilyn began to ball hysterically.

“I’d rather make your death tonight look like a suicide than blow away your famous facial features.”
“I’m going to die tonight?” Marilyn exclaimed, placing both hands together to beg for mercy as she sobbed uncontrollably.

“Please don’t kill me I have too much to live for. I promise I’ll stay away from Jack. I have several movie deals in the works. I even got together with (former husband) Joe (DiMaggio) last weekend and we are thinking of getting back together. Oh, God, please don’t kill me!”

Jackie was unphased by Marilyn’s tears or her supposed future plans.

“You really are a dumb blond -- I thought that was just an act,” Jackie taunted.

“As I was saying, I want to make your death look like a suicide. But I’m giving you a fighting chance. Take these pills and then we’ll fight. If you somehow manage to win, you can call the authorities to arrest me and have your stomach pumped. If you lose, they’ll find your naked body in your bed, the victim of an apparent overdose.”

“No one will believe I committed suicide!” Marilyn cried.

“My dear, with the number of times paramedics have had to revive you in the past two years because of overdoses, they will think your death is nothing but suicide-related,” Jackie coldly replied.

“Now take those pills or I will shoot you in the face and authorities will think the Mafia did it. Either way I will be rid of you as a rival.”

The only hope Marilyn had was to take the pills and pray she could somehow overcome the effects of the drugs, beat Jackie in the catfight and call for paramedics to get there in time to save her life.

Because Marilyn had prevailed in a number of Hollywood catfights she figured she could overcome any attack by novice fighter Jackie if Jackie would put the gun away and fight fair.

As a nude Marilyn slowly and reluctantly consumed many of the pills, Jackie put her gun back in her purse and removed her dress to reveal her pink swimsuit.

She kept on her white gloves to ensure no incriminating fingerprints would be left behind. And Jackie adjusted her pillbox hat and string of pearls as if to dare Marilyn to try to knock the chapeau off her head or pull the strand from her neck. (The hat and pearls remained securely on throughout the balance of the fight.)

Because her high heels had worked so effectively in the early going, Jackie decided to leave those on for now, as well.

“I don’t suppose you will at least let me put on one of my bikinis so that our clothing situation will be somewhat equal?” Marilyn asked.

“You like to parade around on beaches and in magazines nude, so I figured you would be most comfortable fighting without the restraints of clothing,” Jackie said politely. “Besides, whatever you put on, you wouldn’t be wearing it for very long anyway.”

Marilyn got up and, despite starting to feel lightheaded from the pills, got into a wrestler’s crouch and prepared to fight. Seeing Marilyn’s legs spread slightly, Jackie smiled and again quickly kicked her in the crotch, sending Marilyn to the floor holding her damaged womanhood.

Jackie quickly spread Marilyn’s hands away from her crotch and sat on Marilyn’s bountiful chest, pinning Marilyn on her back, arms at her side.

Jackie’s nostrils filled with the sweet scent of Marilyn’s Chanel No. 5 perfume combined with the strong smell of her womanly juices, as Marilyn was dripping wet between her legs despite the abuse.

“I see that on some level you are enjoying this beating,” Jackie said as Marilyn begged Jackie to get off of her.

Jackie looked down at Marilyn’s pubic patch and thought how ironic it was that Jackie’s hairdresser was the legendary Kenneth, who had not only created Jackie's trademark bouffant hairdo, but also had advised Marilyn to dye her pubic hair blond to better fit her image.

Jackie grabbed two handfulls of Marilyn’s blond-tipped pubes and began to pull them out by the black roots. Marilyn screamed at this new assault on her body but was becoming too weak to do anything about it.

After 10 minutes of yanking out clumps of pubic hair, Jackie removed one of her long, slender shoes and showed it to a struggling Monroe.

“God, what huge feet you have!” Marilyn exclaimed, quickly realizing that, given their current positions, Jackie was
about to use the sharply pointed leather weapon to fill the feminine void that many times had been occupied by JFK’s marvelous organ.

Jackie harshly shoved the shoe into Marilyn’s sex and ravaged her for a good 10 minutes. How ironic it was that Marilyn’s last sexual encounter would be at the hilt of Jackie’s oversized high fashion footware and not one of the many Hollywood stars Monroe had joyfully pleasured.

After that humiliating assault that brought Marilyn to just shy of an orgasm, Jackie put the wet shoe back on her foot.

Jackie figured that in her lifetime, Marilyn had had enough orgasms, especially with John. The last thing Jackie wanted that night was for Marilyn to be satisfied in any way. The lack of that orgasm, Jackie figured, would haunt Marilyn into the afterlife.

Jackie then turned around on Marilyn, facing her terrific tits and gorgeous face.

“I’d like nothing better than to punch your breasts black and blue as well as your face, but I can’t have the coroner find you that way,” Jackie said as she again began pinching and twisting a frustrated Marilyn’s nipples.

Jackie figured the authorities would write off bruised nips to Marilyn having had engaged in rough lovemaking, not an attack by a killer.

End of Part 3. To be continued ...

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Jackie vs. Marilyn Part 4 -- Conclusion


Marilyn could not remember much after that. She recalled through a drug haze being half-dragged to her bedroom by her nipples followed by a series of Jackie’s bony knees delivered to her throbbing sex organs and her feet being stomped on by Jackie’s menacing shoes.

Again, Jackie figured the coroner would also write off any discoloration of the vaginal area to aggressive sex and any bruises on her feet to Marilyn wearing improper, too-tight footware or stubbing her toes.

She also figured that by concentrating on Marilyn’s nipples, crotch and feet she would accomplish two things: 1. Jackie would cause Marilyn great pain and discomfort and 2. Jackie would not leave marks that a coroner would consider as contributing factors to Marilyn’s death.

Marilyn was embarassed and humiliated beyond words but she was about to endure one more indignity before she succumbed to the beating.

Through a drug-induced fog Marilyn saw Jackie setting up her camera, flash bulbs, tripod and a timer. Marilyn was on the verge of passing out as several pornographic shots were taken of Marilyn with legs spread.

Other photographs, shot with the assistance of the timing device, featured swimsuited Jackie in different stages of a fight, attacking nude Marilyn’s boobs, crotch and feet – in effect recreating what had happened earlier in the one-sided battle, only this time on Marilyn’s bed.

Jackie also did several muscle flexing poses over her defeated blond rival, her now bare feet placed on Marilyn’s breasts, mouth and crotch.

“Oh my God, you’re not going to have those published, are you?” a vain-to-the-end Marilyn asked, nearing her dying breath.

“No, my dear, they are for me to look at and enjoy during the many years of life I have left,” Jackie said, reminding Marilyn that she would have a long time to gloat while Marilyn was at death’s doorstep.

“One day, years from now, during an especially hot lovemaking session, I may even share them with Jack.”

Those humiliating words were the last Marilyn heard as the deadly drugs did their dirty deed. Jackie gathered her shoes, camera gear, dress and purse, as well as Marilyn’s torn nightie and feathery slippers and left a naked Marilyn in her bed, an empty pill bottle at her side.


Fight Aftermath


On Aug. 5, 1962, the Los Angeles Police Department received a call at 4:25AM from Dr. Hyman Engelberg, saying that Monroe was found dead at her home in the posh Los Angeles suburb of Brentwood.

To this day, many questions remain unanswered about the circumstances surrounding Monroe’s demise, including when her body actually was found.

The official cause of death determined by Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroner’s office was “acute barbiturate poisoning” -- a “probable suicide.”

Chloral hydrate and Nembutal – sleeping pills -- were found in Monroe’s system as a result of the autopsy. Jackie was right. There was no mention of bruises on Monroe’s nipples, labia or toes, much less any notations theorizing their contribution to Marilyn’s death.

Despite the findings, there have long been a number of people who believe Marilyn was murdered and that John or Bobby Kennedy had something to do with it. Other theories place blame on the CIA or Mafia.

Strangely enough, Jackie Kennedy’s name has never come up as a person of interest despite the glowing motive she had to do in Marilyn.

When the press asked for Jackie’s reaction to the untimely death of the 36-year-old actress, the gracious First Lady simply and somberly replied, “She (Monroe) will go on eternally.”

Fifteen months later, Jackie mourned the assassination of her husband, who never got to view the humiliating fight photos and never knew it was Jackie who did in his mistress. Jackie came to regret not sharing that wonderous moment and otherwise failing to satisfy her dead hubby.

Jackie later told her priest, the Rev. Richard McSorley, “I could have made his (JFK’s) life so much happier … I could have tried harder."

Contemplating suicide, Jackie confessed to McSorley, “I was glad that Marilyn Monroe got out of her misery.”

In the coming years, Jackie bounced back from her depression and dated some of the very men Marilyn had bedded, including Marlon Brando, Frank Sinatra and even Bobby Kennedy. Jackie married shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis and wrote and edited books.

She died on May 19, 1994, at her Park Avenue penthouse apartment from cancer. She was 64. Ironically, Jackie’s death came on the 32nd anniversary of the night Monroe sang “Happy Birthday, Mr President” to JFK.

Prior to Jackie’s funeral on May 23 at St. Ignatius Loyola Roman Catholic Church on Park Avenue, Jackie’s kids, John and Caroline, went through their mother’s intimate personal effects in her penthouse home.

Under Jackie’s bed was an unmarked fireproof strongbox, neither of her surviving children had ever before seen. John got the box open to find inside of it a faded blue babydoll nightie and old feathered slippers that were much too small for their mother’s impressive feet.

Then, they found the pictures – pictures that would have solved one of the 20th century’s greatest mysteries: How Marilyn Monroe really died.

“Oh, my God, is that Mom and who I think it is?” Caroline said, initially thinking the intimate looking photos depicted the two famous women making love on Marilyn’s bed.

“That sure is Marilyn -- and look at the date and descriptions on the back of these photos in Mom’s handwriting,” John said, quickly realizing the photos were not of two women having sex but rather one woman defeating the other in a deadly fight.

“I don’t believe it, Mom beat up and killed Marilyn Monroe!”

“John we have to destroy this stuff,” Caroline said. “We can’t take any chance on the press getting a hold of this. We can’t have our mother, one of the most beloved women in history, branded a murderer for eternity!”

Knowing how his mother must have treasured the items in that box, John could not bring himself to burning them. Instead, he placed the shoes and nightie and all of the incriminating photos in a shoe box and slipped them into the lower portion of his mother’s casket prior to the services.

At Jackie’s funeral, John said three of his mother’s attributes were the love of words, the bonds of home and family and “her spirit of adventure.”

Certainly, nowhere was Jackie’s spirit of adventure higher than the night she stripped, beat and destroyed Marilyn.

Fittingly, Jackie Kennedy Onassis was buried along with the mementos of the Monroe fight in a grave next to John F. Kennedy, at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia, more than 3,000 miles from Marilyn’s final resting place in Hollywood.

In death, Jackie had again defeated Marilyn by winding up at JFK’s side for all eternity.

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Hi folks:

Here is an attempt to post photos of Jackie Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe to go with my story.

If it fails, then please disregard this posting.

AWSOME Cigar, just AWSOME! ! !

Must say your work could stand as one of the best work of fiction ever, or an especially fine piece of investigative journalism ever. Its so realistic and detailed, leaving no stone unturned.

Thankfully, the CSI then, if there was a unit at all at the time, had not the benefit of DNA or some of the other technics regailing us each episode, or some questions may have been raised at Marilyn's autopsy as to put on issue her supposed suicide death. You know, like finding traces of shoe polish on the inside of Marilyn's vagina or the slight depression on Marilyn's bedroom rug made by Jackie's tripod, which may indicate that the nude Marilyn was being filmed just prior to her death.

In any event Cigar. Good work. Do you have others you care to share with us?

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And now for some of the photos from my colection of CFNF fights:

1. Jill Monroe defeats Rachel from Womens World.

2. Redhead humiliates blond from unknown source.

3. Rachel in complete command from Womens World.

4. Robin defeats Lisa Comshaw from Les Femmes Fatales.

5. Brunette twists blond's nipples from unknown source.

6. My personal favorite from unknown source.

More to come ...

Hi Cigar!

Thanks for the pics. I noticed a few were watermarked so I downloaded all of them before our tireless moderators could delete them.

I particularly loved your second pic, the one with a dressed woman in black shirt and white pants holding up what appears to be her naked opponent's outfit. Sweet. Thats the kind of fight I like. Women in everyday outfits fighting with only one of them ending up nude. Another favorite of mine is a situation where the two women are dressed quite differently before the match. Like where one of them is in a long sleeved top and pants while her opponent is in a halter miniskirt dress. Or one in your turtleneck shirt, pants and knee high boots against a lady in a skimpy bikini thong and barefoot. You know, fights where the two women are a study in contrast from the beginning with always the more clothed woman winning by a mile.

Anymore pics to share?

Wow, I love the black & white cartoon of the naked girl getting spanked outside by the fully clothed housewife-type. Those are my favorites. Any more of those?

Hey Cigar, you are right. There is a dearth of cfnf fighting material on the web. If there are, they are unfortunately mostly watermarked and, therefore, inappropriate here says our ever vigilant moderators. Fair enough. Hope you can keep sharing your most extensive collection.

For Abby, I was able to scrounge up a few animated cfnf pics. Hope you like them.

another animated aftermath

shoot happened again

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Hi Frrio:

Shoe polish in Marylin’s vagina? Jackie’s tripod indentations on the floor? A special CSI squad? What are you trying to do, Frrio, have the case reopened? (LOL)

When I posted my Jackie vs. Marilyn catfight story I initially thought it was quite silly to tell readers in the forward paragraph that this was a fictitious piece – duh, no kidding. But after re-reading it again on the message board, I’m glad I did post that message.

My fear after posting the story yesterday was that one of this message board’s – how can I put this politely? – more retarded readers would think the piece was an actual documented news account of a series of events that actually took place and go to get the photos.

I much feared I would pick up this morning’s paper and read the banner headline: “Crazed man desecrates Jackie O’s grave!” with the subhead: “Lunatic shouts, ‘I want to see the Marlyn Monroe catfight pictures! I want to see the Marilyn Monroe catfight pictures!’ as authorities drag him kicking and screaming from the unearthed site.”

Then I would get a knock at my door from the Secret Service who would drag my ass off to jail for inciting the desecration of the grave of a former First Lady. And it would all be capped off by my hometown newspaper branding me a pervert for my CFNF fighting fetish.

(Boy does my paranoia and imagination run wild sometimes.)

You know, some people believe everything they read on the internet.

As I put in the forward paragraph of the story, this was a difficult piece for me to write because if such a thing were to have happened and if the police were thorough in their investigation, poor Jackie – a novice, I’m sure, at committing violent crimes – would have been caught, convicted and sent to prison.

And thank goodness for Jackie that you weren’t the chief investigator Frrio, or her ass definitely would have been in an awful large sling! (LOL)

But, just to add some food for thought, we know that from historical documentation, that the police did not do a real good job in this case, and that several people, including JFK’s buddy Peter Lawford, had potential access to the site before – and maybe after -- the police arrived.

A person could have made it appear that the incident was something it wasn’t to protect JFK, Bobby or, for the sake of our fantasy, Jackie.

One mystery surrounding Marilyn’s death, of course, centers on the question, was the scene made to look like a suicide to cover up murder?

The police and coroner’s office were accused by some in the ensuing years of treating the death as a suicide from the get-go -- ignoring any and all other evidence that would have supported that the bleached blond sexpot was slain.

And with that said, my dear Frrio, the authorities would not have swabbed Marilyn’s vagina or given any thought to any dents in her bedroom carpet.

So my theory – as far fetched as it is – is just as plausible as any other Marilyn murder conspiracy theory out there.

Which brings me to my next point for both the lovely Helen (Hemo101) and the even lovlier Frrio: I can’t believe you guys dissed one of my favorite video catfight endings! (Angel vs. Jill)

I thought we were friends. I thought we shared the same fetish fantasy.

With so little of this type of material on the market, almost any stripping ending to a videotaped fight should be cherished, not pooh poohed.

You both were bored by Angel’s victory over Jill?

How can you say it is boring when a hot Latin spitfire like Angel, grinds out a five falls victory over a beautiful blond babe like Jill then strips Jill butt naked and poses over her? That’s not boring. That’s sizzling hot compared to the usual endings that most video fight companies produce!

Seriously, I agree with both of you that they could have done it better. But c’mon, let’s give WW some credit for at least trying to get it right.

Womens World indeed is quite uniform in its CFNFfight productions. When it comes to the all too few CFNF matches they produce they usually wait until the very end of the match for the loser to be stripped naked by a clothed rival, no matter how one-sided the fight is.

(Or in some of their videos, the loser loses her top early on then her bottoms at the end – either way rarely is one girl stripped early in the fight and dominated throughout by a fully clothed lady.)

And the stripping almost always happens after a sleeper hold, choke out or bear hug is applied. So the Angel vs. Jill match was par for their course.

The reason for the overused knockout theme to set up the denuding scene, I guess, is because the producers from that company apparently feel that realistically one woman would not allow another to strip her if she were awake. And that does make some sense.

In real life situations, we would all agree, that a woman would frantically fight off being stripped if she had an ounce of strength left.

But that’s the great thing about fantasies and scripted video taped matches. We can stretch the scenario to fit our desires.

And that’s why I strongly agree with Helen that the winner should strip a conscious woman so that we can enjoy the nearly naked woman begging her opponent to stop undressing her or pleading with her to give her back her clothes after she is starkers. That is sexy as hell.

I am not saying you guys are not entitled to your opinions – you are – nor am I saying we all have to agree on every topic of this discussion.

But I also feel a need to caution against using criticisms that could discourage companies from experimenting with CFNF endings to their fights, especially when we are talking about one of the few companies already providing us with such limited material.

This message board, and especially this thread, features intelligent, thoughtful writers who are part of these companies’ core market group.

I would hate to think that one of Womens World’s owners might be a member of this message board and read criticisms like “boring” to describe what I understand was one of his hottest selling matches.

The company might, God forbid, stop producing videos of this genre if they interpret our criticisms to mean there is no market for their material, when, clearly, there is. By the same token, I agree that we just want it done right.

Helen and Frrio, I really do share your obvious feelings that if we do speak up about our varying tastes and offer constructive criticisms that we can play a role in encouraging more female fight video producers to take our ideas to heart and work them into future more diverse scripts.

And, finally, Helen, I did read this message board’s rules about the watermark on photos, but I think the spirit of that rule may be being misinterpreted.

I’m pretty new here, so I bow to your experience with the moderators of this board, but what I think they mean by the watermark rule – and the other photo posting rules -- is they do not want us posting material that came from somewhere else and, in effect, claiming it as our own.

In other words, if I were to outright take a photo from another website and falsely claim in a caption that it is a shot I personally took of Hemo 101 stripping a particular famous female actress and not give Womens World – or whoever watermarked the photo – any credit, then I can see the moderators’ legal concerns.

But I believe if you give the original source due credit for its work when you are using a sample of it to demonstrate what you are conveying to your readers, you satisfy such entities and they won’t complain about copyright violations even if there technically may be such a violation.

In this case, if I post an on-topic photo from Womens World here and give them credit for having produced the work and they wind up getting several hundred more hits on their website and several sales because our readers checked them out, I don’t see them running to our moderators demanding they remove the photos for copyright violations.

I am in effect helping WW with their potential sales while providing the readers of this message board with on-topic material they might not otherwise have found while surfing the Net. And the material I post, I assure you, is photos that were posted for free to begin with.

For example, I get a lot of my stuff from Yahoo groups, where a lot of photos from many sites are posted – sometimes with the watermarks cut off. That I would say is wrong. You should leave the watermark alone so that the reader knows the origin of the work and the company gets due credit.

Also, I’m not profiting from these photos by posting them. I’m only trying to further the interest in my particular favorite form of ENF by showing the public what is being offered by commercial companies that produce material that suit our particular taste.

Still, if the moderators of this board disagree with me and opt to remove the watermarked photos I have posted, I will understand and stop posting commercial photos altogether to avoid being thrown off the message board or offending anyone.

I certainly do not want to cause anyone any grief or trouble. I’m only here to have fun and support the ENF fetish, like any other member of this board.

Also, Helen, you didn’t comment on my Jackie vs. Marilyn story. I kept Jackie in her dress, shoes, etc. in the early going of the one-sided fight as a tribute to you and your particular taste in CFNF fighting.

I really would like your opinion, including any criticisms you may have about my work.

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And now, some more CFNF fight photos from the 'Net:

1. Naked Blunder Broad in serious trouble -- a Stanton cartoon.

2. A humiliating bareass spanking -- source unknown.

3. Held at gunpoint -- FM Concepts, I believe.

4. Brunette splits blond -- source unknown.

5. Bikinied blond pins naked brunette -- source unknown.

6. Brunette humiliates blond -- source unknown.

7. "Boring" Jill is triumphant -- Womens World.

8 Brunette gets upperhand -- Academy Productions.

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And now, some more CFNF fight results:


1. Blond camel clutches brunette -- Double Trouble.

2. A great submission hold on a naked foe -- unknown source.

3. Hey come back here with that -- unknown source.

4. Black humiliates blond beyond words -- Womens World.

5. A taffy pulling contest -- Double Trouble (I believe).

6. A victory in the kitchen -- unknown source.

7. I'll fix your ass -- Double Trouble (I believe).

8. Angel poses over nude Jill -- Womens World.

9. Black woman triumphant -- Womens World.

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And here is another batch of results from he CFNF wrestling world, sports fans:

1. Evil lookig brunette in total control -- unknown source.

2. Blond pins nude brunette -- unknown source.

3. Loser gets whipped -- unknown source.

4. Black woman beats two blonds --Womens World.

5. Blond facesits brunette -- unknown source.

6. Blond strips redhead -- Womens World.

7. Blond exposes brunette -- Womens World.

8. Robin stretches out Lisa Comshaw -- Les Femmes Fatales.

9. Candy ties up masculine female opponent -- Womens World.

10. Victory for a GI Jane -- Womens World.

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I will make sure that no more photos I post have watermarks on them.

Here are some more CFNF wrestling photos I got surfingthe 'Net:

1. Nude blond at gunpoint -- Womens World.

2. Bikinied Aziza defeats naked Zora -- Womens World.

3. Blond marches nude brunette -- unknown source.

4. Blond scissors naked brunette -- unknown source.

5. Bond Nazi tortures nude Jewish girl -- unknown source.

6. Blond hoists nude brunette in victory -- unknown source.

7. Candy loses to blond in karate gloved match -- Womens World.

8.Taking it outside the nightclub for a CFNF catfight? -- unknown source.

9. I love the leg warmers on the winner -- unknown source.

10. Rachel loses to tough black girl -- Womens World.

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The following is what some consider the Citizen Kane of catfight scenes in mainstream movies.

It is my favorite CFNF fight scene of all time -- the fight on the beach between private eye Ginger, portrayed by Cheri Caffaro, and the brunette leader of a girl gang. The photos are stills from the film "Ginger," a sexploitation film from the early 1970s.

Before the two women locked up to do battle, the brunette added the stipulation that the loser had to be stripped naked. Ginger denuded her bikinied opponent and tied the woman up with her own swimsuit after an all-to-short tussle on a New Jersey beach.

I believe I got these photos from another category of this message board, but I'm not sure. Therefore I will apologize in advance if they have already been posted elsewhere in this forum.

Hi Cigar!

Actually, if you scroll back up to page 6 you would see that I had already given my comment to your great work. Its right after your post of the two combatants' pics. Like I said before, your work is awsome and the epitome of how a very good catfight should be written. Your the man Cigar.

Hmm. . . come to think of it, reading your story makes me think it could not have happened that way, and is, therefore, nothing more than a fictional account of an otherwise true event, which is the death of Marilyn Monroe.

For one, how would it have been possible for Jackie to have ditched her secret service escorts and reach Marylin's house undetected? Considering their experience and expertise in what they do, I do not think it would have been possible for Jackie to have escaped her escorts, even if this event took place before 911.

Second we all know that JFK comes from good old Irish stock. Like all Irishmen then, he was sure to enjoy a good fight and other rambunctious sports, whether as a participant or spectator, in line with their sobriquet "the fighting Irish".

That being said I believe this is what really happened that night on the evening of Marylin Monroe's death.

It was true that Marylin maintained an ilicit torrid affair with JFK, with the knowledge of the first lady. It was also true that on the evening of Marylin's death, Jackie turned up in front of her door to confront the man stealing wh*r*. She, however, was not alone.

When Marylin heard a knock on her door, she eagerly opened it with a dazzling smile on her face to greet her lover. To her surprise, standing beside the most powerful man in the country was the first lady herself, who was none too happy being where she was. (For the sake of simplicity, lets just say that the women were dressed in exactly the same way they were in Cigar's epic tale.)

After a quick search by the secret service to ensure that the house was secure, Mr. President finally entered with the first lady in tow. After taking a seat in the sofa, JFK faced both his wife and mistress that he wanted to be entertained. With a mischievous grin he told both women he wanted to see them engage in a catfight, with the winner getting him and the first ladyship as the prize, while the loser. . .( at this point the president takes a bottle of what appears to be sleeping pills from his pocket). . . a one way ticket to lala land, after all he didn't want any scandal to leak out.

When Jackie first heard the terms of the fight, she adamantly refused to participate, telling the President he can have a divorce and marry the blonde strumpet instead. This only drew derissive laughter from her husband who tossed to her an envelope containing a number of surveillance photographs of her and a number of her secret lovers in very intimate and compromising positions, including a rather famous Greek shipping tycoon.

When Jackie continued to stare blankly at the proof of her indiscretions, JFK simply told her it wouldn't be possible for her just to get a divorce, as he wanted to see her suffer too, especially at the hands of his misstress, the new first lady in the event she wins.

Marylin just gave Jackie the sweetest and fakest of smiles.

As JFK continued to beam sweetly at Marilyn, you would never know that deep down he was seething with hatred towards her. For one, she had been seeing other men behind his back, and not too discreetly either. Second, she had started blabbing about their affair, letting some very intimate secrets out of the bag.( Like despite the president's extremely husky exterior, down there he was just disproportionally less endowed) Secrets which may ruin his career and rule out his chance for re-election.

Thus, although he no longer loved his wife, he loathed his mistress more. He had to make sure that she was the one who loses the fight.

Before he made the girls commence, JFK placed a call to his buddy and brother in law, Peter Lawford, who happens to be Marilyn's next door neighbor. He mumbled something into the phone before putting it down. He told Marilyn to fix be ready for company and to fix some drinks.

While Marilyn was busy mixing drinks a knock was heard on the door. JFK told her to answer it and took over from her. While she was otherwise occupied seeing who it was, JFK surreptitiously pulled out a vial of crushed sleeping pills and poured it unto one glass.

When Marilyn opened the door, she saw that it was her neighbor Peter as well as the rest of the rat pack. They all greeted her warmly as they entered and even gave a hearty greeting to Jackie as she stood quietly staring steadily at her husband. (I think she may have seen what he had done.)

JFK walked up to Marilyn with two drinks in hand. He handed her one and they both toasted, draining their respective glasses. It was only after Marilyn had drained her glass that JFK acknowledge his gang and told them to help themselves. After a few minutes of chitchat to allow his friends to get settled in (but more to have the pills take effect), JFK finally signalled for the fight to begin.

It went all the way Cigar had described, except that Jackie had no gun to intimidate her opponent and won the one sided match fair and square. Well to be fair, the match was not really that fair to begin with.

After the fight the secret service did their utmost best to sanitize the place. I believe pressure was subtly exerted on the authorities which was why the only findings they could come out with was that Marilyn's death was a suicide.

Things could have ended right there and then, except for a fact that JFK was himself shot later by a sniper who could or could not have been a sailor in a certain Greek Tycoon's fleet.

How's that for a conspiracy theory?

Hi Cigar, I'm Back!

First of all, allow me to apologize for having offended you by saying the final stripping scene in the Angel vs. Jill video to be "boring".

Let me explain.

Although I remember reading that the fight was composed of five falls, when I entered youtube I found that there were a number Angel vs. Jill clips, and they were not consecutively in order. There were clips where Angel was in a red one piece suit and others where she is even more briefly attired than Jill. Unfortunately, one of the first clips I clicked on was the one where the stripping took place.

The scene started with Angel giving Jill a bear hug, and thats about it. No other action or reaction. Even when the bearhug ended, there was not much action since Jill was unconscious laying face first on the ground, and everything snug against the mat. Nada, nothing could be seen of her, nor any scenes of the winner taking her liberties on the vanquished, naked foe. Well, she did plant her feet on her naked foe's ass in a victory pose, but thats about it.

I admit things could have been different had I been able to watch the match sequentially and in all its entirety. Maybe then, I could have appreciated it more and therefore would not have said any harsh words. My most humblest apologies to you and womens world. Mea culpa.

Love your pics though. I hope you keep sharing. Me I've got tons more but like I said their watermarked.

Hey did you know that girl in your last series has a cmnf set? Tell me if youd like to gander so I could post it. Itr is definitely off topic, but who cares.

Oh BTW, do you have shots of the beach fight showing the fight itself and how the naked one got stripped?

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Helen and Frrio,

Oh my goodness, now it’s time for me to apologize.

I thought Frrio wrote the part about the shoe polish in the vagina or tripod marks on the floor. But on further review, I see it was Helen.

When you read my last written post, Frrio, you must have thought I had gone out of my mind.

Sorry for the mixup.

Helen, thank you for weighing in on our new Kennedy conspiracy theory. You added a great element to the story that mine was lacking – and one I could not figure out how to write in – that is a crowd of perverts to watch the spectacle.

In your writings, Helen, it is more than apparent that an extremely important element is for there to be a crowd to witness the humiliation of a one-sided CFNF fight, where – at least up until now – I have preferred a private one-on-one battle.

But, more and more, I am beginning to see the need for catfight scenarios to take place in front of several people or even large crowds. (That’s kind of hard to do, however, in small-budget videos.)

I guess the reason I have shied away from crowd scenarios is that I fear some sympathetic people in a crowd, seeing one woman begin to get embarrassed as her opponent starts to strip her, might move in to break up the fight or otherwise interfere before the loser is naked.

When it is one-on-one in a secluded place, however, the winner can spend as long as she wants humiliating her stripped foe in private.

What I like about your version of my story is that not only do you have JFK watching the battle – which, I agree, he probably would have gotten a real kick out of – you added the entire Rat Pack! That’s so cool.

I had read accounts that those guys allegedly were into many forms of debauchery, including having scantily clad starlets wrestle for them at pool parties.

Wouldn’t it have been so hot to see a young Angie Dickinson and Raquel Welch sqaure off for their sick entertainment? I can definiely picture it as really having happened that way.

Men have long been into the girl fight thing as evidenced by sexy girl boxing movies of the 1940s and titilating Bette Page lingerie wrestling movies of the 1950s.

(Again, only in recent years have some producers experimented with the CFNF endings to girl fights. Bette Page did not remove as much as one of her opponent’s shoes or stockings, let alone a bra or panties.)

Building upon that, I can remember an interview Pamela Anderson did where she said one night she got invited to the Playboy Mansion for a party called “Fight Night” and told the person who called her: “I’m not going to fight anyone for you!”

I can easily imagine Hef, with his sexually librated attitude coupled with young Hollywood hopefuls knocking down the mansion door to pose nude in his magazine, holding bikini catfight tournaments on the mansion lawn.

It’s not that far-fetched. I bet a number of gals would have participated for a chance to be next month’s centerfold.

Although I still like my version of the Jackie vs. Marilyn fight better, I also like your twist on it as well – it was fun and imaginative and logical.

I will take issue, however, with the part about Jackie not being able to ditch her Secret Service guards – at least that agency’s employees of the early 1960s. Question: Where were those diligent civil servants 15 months later when JFK’s brains were pouring out of a gaping bullet hole in his head? That would have been another bad day they had on the job.

Nevertheless, maybe sometime you and I can write a CFNF fight story together.

One of us could write the first five paragraphs, then the other the next five and alternate back and forth -- five two-to-three sentence paragraphs at a time -- by email.

We’d come up with a general overall theme. But we wouldn’t discuss beforehand what the other person would be writing so that neither one of us would know exactly where the story was heading or the outcome until the very end.

Then, if it doesn’t come out like pure crap, we could post the story on this thread of the message board. Even if it is disappointing to us, we may post it anyway because someone else might enjoy it.

It might be a lesson in frustration because even though we share the same fetish for CFNF fights, we are of the opposite sex and our tastes are a bit different so the story line might shift a lot, providing a serious challenge for both of us to keep it flowing well.

(That reminds me of a joke I heard recently by a comedian who was commenting that women and men can not possibly share the same fantasy. Such a shared fantasy, he said, would start with a knight riding up to a fair damsel on a white stallion and end with the knight spluging across the damsel’s face!)

Think about the CFNF fight story proposal and let me know if you want to give it a try.

Also, regarding the Angel vs. Jill comments, you did not need to apologize. I was trying to be funny, not preachy.
One of the perspectives that you and Frrio probably did not have regarding that match is that in numerous previous videos for Womens World, Jill stripped and humiliated a lot of her opponents.

So, in this one, she got paid back, big time. I love scenarios where the bully gets the tables turned on her and is forced to take her medicine.

Without knowing that, the ending of that fight would have been far less significant and satisfying to folks like yourselves.

Also, I might be wrong about this, but I reckon the women who work regularly for these girl fight video companies have some say as to how far they will go with nudity in these videos.

Therefore, when the script calls for them to be nude, perhaps they negotiate with the director that they will be stripped lying face down, as Jill was, so that nothing but their butts are exposed.

Other women, like veteran brunette Candy, who wins as often as she loses for Womens World, has for many years been captured on video, face up, nude and with legs spread at the end of some of her matches.

I imagine the actresses probably are offered more money for full-frontal nudity than backside nudity. What do you readers think?

Also, maybe there is a producer, director or actress who does these type of films and is a member of this message board who can shed some light on this subject. I am curious about how much the women are paid for their fetish wrestling work. I’ll bet it’s not a whole lot – nudity or not.

One last note about Angel vs. Jill, Angel Riptide is a professionally trained wrestler who made only, I believe, two videos for Women’s World, winning both of her encounters and stripping both of her opponents. (I guess she needed to do fetish wrestling to pay the rent.)

The match with Jill is several years old. I understand Jill has retired from fetish wrestling films simply because she got too old to do them.

Angel has since gone on to star in several major pro wrestling promotions and win women’s world championships. At last check she still was performing on pro wrestling cards on the indendent circuit and for all-female pro wrestling promotions.

I kind of wonder if she cringes when some fans bring up the CFNF wrestling work she did for Womens World several years ago.

Along those lines, one of the owners of Women’s World once told me that one of the girl wrestlers who frequently worked for his company was recognized at an airport and was approached by several of her fans seeking autographs.

The problem was, he said, the woman was with members of her family, who was shocked to learn from what the fans were saying to their loved one that their little girl was making adult-oriented videos to support herself! Talk about your 15 minutes of fame. LOL!

P.S. Helen, who would you put your money on in this fight? I'll tell you about this Womens World video later:

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Helen:

Oh, I forgot to answer your question about the Cheri Caffaro CMNF scene.

Yes I have seen both the tape and photos from the CMNF scene from the same movie where Ginger is stripped and sexually assaulted. It really doesn’t do anything for me.

Isn’t it strange about human nature? We are both into CFNF fighting, yet you are not into CFNM stuff, as you wrote earlier, and I am not into CMNF stuff. Yet I am really into CFNM and you apparently like CMNF stuff. Weird huh?

You’d think we would both be into both of those related fetishes but we are only each into one of them.
It takes all kinds of people to make up this crazy world, I guess.

By the way, if the Ginger fight scene is not your cup of tea, you might instead enjoy one of the scenes near the end of the sequel “Girls Are For Loving.” (the third movie in the Ginger trilogy was “The Abductors.”)

At the end of “Girls are for Loving,” which I believe was released in 1971 or '72, Caffaro’s Ginger character gets into a fight with the villain played by Joyclyn Peterson, with both gals fully dressed.

It ends with a fully clothed Cheri chasing Jocylyn, tieing her to a bed and stripping her naked – shoes and everything. She then has her male partner sexually assault Joycelyn’s character, telling her: “Girls are for loving.”

It’s really a neat scene that I understand is available if you are a paid member of OCC.

Hi Cigar!

Nothing to apologize for. I love your idea of a collaborated cfnf catfight story. I'll pm to you my e-mail addy and lets take it from there. I just know this will all be fun.

I'm glad you liked my version of the Jackie vs. Marilyn tiff. Looking at the old photos of dear old Mr. President, you can just see he has too much of a mischevous glint in his eyes everytime he smiles. Kinda projecting a he knows something you don't know look.

I kinda take exception to your inference that the secret service are made up of clueless, incompetent boobs. Considering all the tax dollars spent on their training and years of experience, it would be impossible for a mere first lady to escape their clutches. Sorry to say, your "lone assailant theory" does not hold water and could never have happened.

Besides, didn't ot ever occur to you that whenever shit happens, they were allowed to by our good old men in black. Who do you think holds the real power in this country? The temporary lodger on Pennsylvania Avenue? Grow up! It is those shadowy characters in corporate boardrooms who do so, content on remaining in the background so long as our dear Mr. President does what he is told.

( On good authority, the assasination of JFK was different in that it was not because he went heads up against the powers behind the throne, but rather was really a crime of passion, instigated no doubt by someone closest to him and her lover. Too bad none of the players are alive now to take to Guantanamo to force a confession from.

Hmm. . . that chick Cheri seems to have been around. Do you have any more pics. of her? The ones I have of her are not from a movie but from an interview she did with some well known writer or something. They are in black and white and show an absolutely nude Cheri, well to be more accurate a shoed Cheri with a fully clothed man in a suit.

Anyway, lets do this.

Gotta go.

Love

Helen

P.S.

Anent your picture, a comparisson of the ladies would show that the naked one is more formidably built than the clothed girl. As such, she would appear most likely to come out on top, but I have a feeling this will not happen. My money then will be on the clothed girl who beets the living crap out of our nudie. Is there any chance they fight as is?

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Helen:

Regarding that interesting photo:

In its efforts to apparently reach customers of all tastes, Womens World produced a sort of reverse CFNF match.

This was a strip match, with the loser of a fall surrendering a piece of clothing to the winner. But Shelly, the blond, showed up in just a robe and drunk, having swilled from her bottle of alleged booze (more likely water).

The inebriated doll then dropped her robe to reveal she already was naked, meaning she couldn’t afford to lose a single fall. The premise was she was so much better a fighter than her opponent she could start a strip match already in the altogether and plastered -- and still win.

It’s kind of the equivalent of “I can beat you with one hand tied behind my back.” Or something to that effect.

From the description by the company, Shelly apparently did not lose a fall, dominating her clothed foe and relieving her of her garments fall by fall. The producers did not reveal in their description who won the last fall and, therefore the fight, but apparently the last fall was NFNF.

As Frrio said in an earlier posting, all can you expect from these videos is that some part of them might fill your greatest expectations. In this case, the beginning of the match has what you are looking for – a fully clothed woman and a totally nude one.

In this case, however, the nude one apparently is dominant despite her great clothing disadvantage.

Figures. Leave it to the suits to otherwise ruin a wonderful scenario with a droll ending.

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And now some more photos of CFNF fighting and related topcis:

1. I guess this is for the CFNF vs. CFNF title -- Womens World.

2. An easy victory for the older looking blond -- FM Concepts.

3. Teacher spanks naughty student -- unknown source.

4. Jill Monroe walks away victorious -- unknown source.

5. Rachel puts nude Zora into a pretzle hold -- Womens World.

6. Talk about an arse whipping -- unknown source.

7. Shut your mouth girl -- unknown source.

8. I want you awake for what I'm about to do to you -- unknown source.

9. The winner displays loser after fight -- unknown source.

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Helen:

A quick note about your Caffaro pics.

The dude in those photos is Earl Wilson, who in his time, was one of America's top syndicated newspaper columnists. He called his big scoops "Earl's Pearls." He made a cameo appearance in one of those Frankie Avalon-Annette Funicello bikini beach pictures, playing hmself. He died several years ago.

Those photos you have -- I have seen those as well -- were the result of a gimmick conceived by Caffaro's husband at the time, Don Schain (sp?), who also was the director of all three of the Ginger movies. It was a publicity stunt for the first movie "Ginger," which is one of the first mainstream films that was released in major theatres that focused on fetishes including catfighting and bondage.

Although not a very good movie, it was a groundbreaking film and the producers wanted to do something real hot to promote it. That's when Schain decided to have Cheri Caffaro do the nude interview with Wilson, who, from the look of the photos that were taken, rather enjoyed it.

Caffaro went on to be a B movie queen and was one of the writers of the 1980s college romp film "HOTS."

Caffaro today is in her 60s and, from what I understand, lives a rather secluded life. She said in a recent interviw that she writes a lot of scripts and has never received the full royalties from the Ginger films. She is no longer married to Schain.

And, no, I do not have any more on topic photos of her. Some of her photos are dotted over the internet. But I have never seen a photo of her posted after the late 1970s or early 1980s, about the time she made one of her last films, I believe it was "Switchblade Sisters."

I imagine as with a number of stars of the past like Bridget Bardot the years have not been kind to her, otherwise there would be some more recent photos of her out there.