Originally Posted by therocket (Post 269232)

All from Russia...trolling the photofile.ru galleries.

And don't move to Russia (no offence comrads) if you want to sweat it out, naked, co-ed, and in public...head to Germany (or Austria, Switzerland or the Netherlands0.

therocket

Originally Posted by dixler (Post 383739)

Are there any voyeur vids or pics of any of these co-ed German, Austrian, or Dutch saunas? Because I don't think I've ever seen any. I'd have to imagine that co-ed saunas would be fertile ground for voyeurs.

Originally Posted by dixler (Post 383739)

Are there any voyeur vids or pics of any of these co-ed German, Austrian, or Dutch saunas? Because I don't think I've ever seen any. I'd have to imagine that co-ed saunas would be fertile ground for voyeurs.

Originally Posted by polki1 (Post 416139)

You Americans are kind of strange. I cant really figure out what is so exciting about saunas and nakedness in general. I work in a well reputated university hospital and I have seen most of my colleagues, men and women, naked; some of them every week when we are playing badminton and go to the sauna afterwards. At most lakes nearby, it is just normal to take a bath naked. On the other hand, I am quite astonished when I see for example pictures of prom dresses. Nobody would ever leave his home with such open-hearted clothing... Strange world.

Originally Posted by drewhadley (Post 416165)

I lived overseas for a few years. I believe that Europeans are just as obsessed with nudity as anyone else. They are more open about nudity, but no less obsessed. I saw so many salacious advertising campaigns that were based around toplessness/nudity...it was not portrayed as a "natural" thing. Let's face it, the female form is going to hold interest to just about anyone. It's a classic. The fact that it's more "in the open" (on TV, ads, beaches, etc.) in Europe does not immunize people to it. There was so much usage of female nudity in advertising over there, and none of it was particularly innocent. And I agree with Sandy, what are you doing here Polki? "Research" into what we Yanks are looking at?

Originally Posted by drewhadley (Post 416165)

I lived overseas for a few years. I believe that Europeans are just as obsessed with nudity as anyone else. They are more open about nudity, but no less obsessed. I saw so many salacious advertising campaigns that were based around toplessness/nudity...it was not portrayed as a "natural" thing. Let's face it, the female form is going to hold interest to just about anyone. It's a classic. The fact that it's more "in the open" (on TV, ads, beaches, etc.) in Europe does not immunize people to it. There was so much usage of female nudity in advertising over there, and none of it was particularly innocent. And I agree with Sandy, what are you doing here Polki? "Research" into what we Yanks are looking at?

Originally Posted by SandyM (Post 416124)

these might be staged, but, I still like them. Found on Photofile

Originally Posted by polki1 (Post 416139)

You Americans are kind of strange. I cant really figure out what is so exciting about saunas and nakedness in general.

Originally Posted by FKKFan (Post 416781)

I too must echo the last few posts. Toplessness in Germany is way down since the early 00's...wonder if it has to do w/the advent of the camera cell. And as for FKK, membership too is down (Google it auf Deutsch for various news stories); I've noticed various lakes I used to visit have gotten a little "geriatric" in regards to demographics. Last summer I visited both the Englischer Garten and the banks of the Isar and saw very few attractive young women showing full schwaa in public.

Originally Posted by FKKFan (Post 416781)

I too must echo the last few posts. Toplessness in Germany is way down since the early 00's...wonder if it has to do w/the advent of the camera cell. And as for FKK, membership too is down (Google it auf Deutsch for various news stories); I've noticed various lakes I used to visit have gotten a little "geriatric" in regards to demographics. Last summer I visited both the Englischer Garten and the banks of the Isar and saw very few attractive young women showing full schwaa in public.

As for saunabads, I think people here are getting the wrong impression. A lot, A LOT, of women cover up when they exit the sauna cabin and don't walk around nude. In fact, I would say the majority of nudity you will see are in dark sauna cabins, the light-therpy cabins, the open showers and maybe the whirlpool. Of course, the outdoor sunning patio and swimming pool of the better saunabads will have nudity; but much of it is elderly...and again...even those women cover up more often than not. Now don't get me wrong, I've seen copious amounts of first Klasse tits & pussy in German saunabads (mostly in Freiburg, a university town)...and it is there; but it's not like it's this fantasy of wall-to-wall nude women all the time. In fact, more than once I've left feeling disappointed in the fact that so many women stayed covered up so much of the time (versus the "old" days).

Another distressing thing: It seems the FKK nights at schwimmbads are also going away or are less frequent. Having been to them w/my wife, I can tell you it can be a bit of a sausagefest...and as a result, intimidating for a woman. Again though, I think the advent of the camera cell has had a bit to do with that too; there have been a few public scandals where photos were posted to the internet (notably, on Voyeurweb) and the news picked up on it. In addition to that, some of these FKK nights have gotten a reputation for swinging...like the Miramar in Weinheim (again, just Google and translate).

Anyway, hope I didn't turn this into a rant or downer; just wanted to share another perspective.

FKKFan (aka Seahawk)

Originally Posted by soundwave106 (Post 416827)

I haven't been to Europe in a while, but last time I went (early 2000s) some people were importing a bit of the American attitude of nudity=exploitation... which I'm sure the Internet doesn't help, sad to say. Europe was overall way more laissez faire in regards to nudity. Certainly a bit less prude than American metropolitan areas. If attitudes have converged towards American metropolitan levels, well, that is way less prude than heartland areas. On the other hand, I've never seen seas of naked people in Europe; anyone who expects that will be disappointed. It just means that you will go on a beach, and there may be topless bathers or naked bathers, and people won't care. Aside from designated nudist colonies, there are only a few places in America that are like that (more "European" places like South Beach). Europe also has some nudity on TV, though it does seem like less than there used to be.

Ironically, I actually consider interest in nudism in America to be going up right now, including interest from a slightly younger age group than has typically been interested in the past. (Instead of retired, you get some interest from the yuppie crowd and the hippie crowd). If Europe is less inclined to nudism than the past, maybe of all things America will pick up the slack. :)

Originally Posted by FKKFan (Post 416781)

As for saunabads, I think people here are getting the wrong impression. A lot, A LOT, of women cover up when they exit the sauna cabin and don't walk around nude. In fact, I would say the majority of nudity you will see are in dark sauna cabins, the light-therpy cabins, the open showers and maybe the whirlpool.

Originally Posted by dixler (Post 416944)

I've never been to Germany, but I read that most of the saunabads don't have mixed showers. I read they may have a mixed changing area, but that there are separate showers for men and women. Is this true? You would know, I wouldn't.

Originally Posted by dixler (Post 417005)

I have another question about German saunabads.

I understand that they have female only days once or twice during the week. During those times, no male sauna customers are allowed.

What happens to male employees of the saunabad? Are they still allowed to work those days? And if so, are they kept segregated from the naked women?

Thanks for your input.

Originally Posted by stevin6 (Post 417194)

For about 2 years ago a well known very big sauna/wellness center fired an masseur/massage therapist when they found out he wanted often to touch and look at the intimate parts.
:)

Originally Posted by dixler (Post 417228)

I have also read that in Europe massages are usually done with the person being nude and they include breasts and buttocks.

Is that true?

That wouldn't be a bad job, if you could just do women, and have your pick from them.