That is a great idea Zelten! C'mon Joe! Do us all a solid here! As always, thanks for sharing your awesome comics with us CartoonJoe!

Unleashing the Stash
 

Part 2
 

Last Part for Now
 

I'd like to bring the "move the furry pics to a different thread" issue back to the table. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that seeing boobs on Spongebob's squirrel friend comes dangerously close to spoiling boobs for me.

If we're doing this, can I also propose splitting up some of the pictures by style? For example, I think the Biker and Cartoon Joe pictures are abundant enough they can each have their own thread (we might already have a thread for Biker pictures, come to think about it).* CGI should also have its own thread (technically a separate medium altogether). And also the more realistic "comic-book" style pictures VS the detailed caricatures VS the ultra simple styles should probably be split into separate threads, since they can be jarring to see side by side. Black and white VS colored has the same issue. The Disney stuff also kinda weirds me out sometimes, so I'd definitely appreciate that being given its own thread (actually, fan-works as a whole can do that, depending...).

I'm... honestly not sure if I'm being sincere or not here XD. [To clarify: I can see the value in keeping stuff separate so that fans of one thing don't have to be subjected to another, but if you honestly try to separate every little niche within the tooniphile fetish (even ignoring lolicon, since that's against the rules here), you'd probably wind up with too many threads to count, and I see no reason to believe the "furries" is a particularly more deserving element to recieve its own thread than some of the other things I've mentioned. Also, to be clear, I AM sincere with my above examples, since many of them DO contrast and the Disney stuff DOES genuinely bother me most of the time (as do some of the "ultra-simple" cartoons)... but then again, this is weighed against the point that I also know those threads would be less prosperous if separate, and would also clutter up the ENF board a lot more that way. On the other other hand, I do have to acknowledge that we do already have a separate thread for anime VS this one, although we seem to still be getting quite a bit of animesque drawings in here, so... I dunno XD.]

[Also, as a side question: Just how "furry" does something have to be to qualify as a "furry?" Technically speaking the term can be applied to ANY person with "animal like traits" (even purely psychological ones, such as cat like manerisms, or normal human traits that just happen to bare a passing aesthetic resemblance to those associated with an animal, such as the "fox face" associated with some Asian people), but it could also be being used only to refer to "full furries" (those actually covered completely in fur). I have seen people that will object even to the iconic "catgirl," though, so I can't honestly say which it is. Also, do mythical creatures count? Like, if we were to split things up, would a centaur go in the furry thread, or in this one. What about a minotaur? Mermaids? Where's the line drawn, and why?)

*: Also, since I know at the very least that CJ will be reading this (as well as many of his fans), I do wanna make 110% sure that people understand I'm not saying anything against his or Biker's works. On the contrary, I've rather enjoyed their stuff at times. But I do think they're sufficiently self standing (and sufficiently stylistic/different from the majority of the stuff on here) that if we're going to be splitting things up, they can and probably should get their own threads, instead of being lumped in with everything else.

Ask, and Ye Shall Receive! Though there's not much to this scene.

I personally would love to see that! Keep up the good work - your Miss Truth cartoon's are sheer brilliance.

If it comes down to making a bunch of threads, let's make a bunch of threads. With the amazingly specific topics that are already out there ("Does anyone have pictures of girls with tanlines who are only wearing bras and are on the beach in the presence of two fully clothed girls who are looking at her butt at night?") it would hardly seem irregular. Besides, all semantics and technicalities aside, this is strictly about isolating that which has significant squick value for others, and I suspect we're all able to identify that when we see it, even when it's something we appreciate ourselves.

Most of this seems reasonable. That said, your last sentence... I wouldn't be so sure of that. In all honest, I, myself, am a little surprised to see people complaining about the presence of furies O_o...

Also, my point is kind of that EVERYTHING has significant squick value for others. A drawing style that's fine for one will weird out another. And a lot of people will be squicked out by seeing a work they "grew up on" sexualized. Not to mention the point I already made about why you need to better define "furry" in your request.

So if you're proposing we fine chop the works by category, then sure, as long as nobody else has a problem with that I won't complain (although I'm not sure what's stopping you from initiating this by starting a topic or two dedicated to a category that excludes that which you're squicked out by). But please don't think my point was about "semantics" or "technicalities." It was about a very real complicating factor with your request...


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Anyway, as for anyone not invested in this debate, I apologize for the kinda-sorta derail. I'd post up a picture as a peace-offering, but most of the ecchi cartoons I've got saved on my computer right now are anime, and I'm pretty sure almost all of what I have that isn't is stuff I took from this thread in the first place XD. Maybe I'll search for something later, though, or something...

Biker already has a thread dedicated to his works. I don't see why Cartoon Joe shouldn't make a separate thread either -- it would definite get more attention from forum-goers given how prolific he is.

Remember that splitting the thread means more visibility for the various sub-interests. A lot of people like furry, so it makes sense to make a separate thread so it's not buried in a topic full of other drawings, in the same way that this thread was made to gather non-Anime/Manga art, which was the dominant thread. It's not about "I don't like furry, gtfo"; it's about giving respect to the interest by making a separate thread where all things furry can be seen.

To me, it only makes sense.

I'd love an all Cartoon Joe thread. But a lot of his earlier stuff isn't as readily available.

And thats a crime I tells ya!

sketches
 

by frank cho and adam hughes

Like these old ones from page 60 of the anime thread

Is there anymore to the one where the three students are naked? I'd like to know how that occurred.

As easy as it is to start new threads, it's far more practical to make one about a specific subject than to make one about everything but a specific subject. And this is already the "General" thread, where features a lot of material I like to see.

I didn't anticipate having to explain why I object to the furry images, and this is honestly awkward considering how civilly this discussion is going. It's not really about seeing characters we "grew up on" (for my own part, at least, but if I might put forward general theory based on my own experience...) so much as it's about these same characters generally being children and other subjects that shouldn't be sexualized. There are reasons we frown on underage porn, even if it's hand drawn, and I feel that these same concerns apply to animals: these are both innocent subjects incapible of legal concent who can only suffer from being eroticized. When I see something with an animal's face that is clearly meant to be evocative, I can only associate it with saddening and appalling notions.

I don't want this to be taken as a judgement of anyone. While most people I know feel this way about fur porn, we do acknowledge that "furvert-ism" doesn't equate to bestiality any more than slasher-movie-fandom equates to sociopathy. One of our primary positions, incidentally, is "It's not like we have to look at fur-porn, or anything". Which is why I felt it was important to raise the subject.

As for where the line is drawn, it's been my experience that people can fairly consistently spot that uncanny valley between human-with-animal-features and animal-with-human-features. You mentioned people complaining about catgirls, and I've actually read speculation that this is more indicitive of general anti-furry sentiment than legitimate squick (I would argue that catgirls are just plain annoying as well, but that probably doesn't quite cover everything).

I think I've said all I have to say, so I'm gonna try to refrain from tying up this thread any more until I have some actual pictures to contribute.

Robopal is back
 

Robopal is back and I just gave him some good ideas to help him continued The Dastardly Deeds of Bill and Ben but there is a problem he has lost the hard drive that I kept all the Bill and Ben models on so if anyone can help that would be great.

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since we're throwing ideas around for seperate thread ideas how about this, an enf/euf art thread without all the sexually explicit stuff (penis, hardcore, etc).

Thanks, haywood for finding those...I had lost them when my computer crashed back during the fall!:D

Nope...that was all i drew!;)

No prob. I know we at the zoomgroup bug ya a lot to post a collection of all ya have but I don't remember anything coming of that except for the secondary group that had a few. I really loved sheepskin and a few of the other old ones but can't seem to find them.

POST THEM ALL JOE.

It's great Robopal's back - if you are reading this mate I for one am glad! You are brilliant...

(Now if he's a member here he'll read the stuff I wrote about him earlier in this thread, wonder what he will think? LAWLZ!)

He is not a member yet. Also what did you wrote about him? And I gave him some good ideas to continued his comic and I also gave some good ideas for some bonus comic and he likes them. But again he has lost his hard drive that he kept all the Bill and Ben models on so if anyone can help that would be great. Also I need some help to comig up what happens in next issue#8. So if anyone would like to help send me a private message and I will give the info on what me and Robopal have so far for the two issue so you all can help come up with on what happens in next.

Are furries ever truly "naked"?

LOL

Just curious. :p

I think this thread proves that yes, they can be (depending on the length and coverage of said fur).

:)Thanks Joe for posting these again as I had computer problems as well & lost some of these files.

I am writing an enf story in which the teacher becomes naked pupil & is forced to write lines on the black board by the "new" teacher but what I have written for this part is not great - so if anybody could suggest something, please.

Is the line that Ms Truth has to write in Naked Lesson "I will wear clothes in school"?

Yes, it is!

Well, here's Betty Boop from her first appearance in Dizzy Dishes (1930), when she was a French Poodle...

Looks awfully naked to me!!:D










This is my 100th post!! WOO-HOO!!:D

ENF comic
 

Working on an ENF comic of my own. here's some demos.

Looks very interesting!

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This .gif from Rampage World Tour. (Doesn't seem to be saving/uploading properly.)

(cut and pasted from my post of 7/14/2010)

I too was a great fan of this guy, and was very sad when his site closed. Actually I don't think it was taken down because of the content, so much as that he had ceased to maintain it and eventually sites with no legit activity tend to get removed, to free up space.

His stuff was really excellent, not only was it sexy but the dialogue was genuinely funny, and even the non-sexy characters (Bill and Ben) were interesting. In short, it had genuine storylines as well as being great w*nk material.

Unfortunately, (and I mean no disrespect to the artist here, he more or less said this himself) his temperament didn't match his ability. To begin with, he seemed to regard his original work on the site as more or less a warm-up act for the Morphy material he'd also posted there. Morphy's stuff is great too, but I'd have liked to have seen more of Robo's material at his own site.

He also tended to react very sensitively to criticism (again, I paraphrase what he himself wrote at the site, and I am NOT intending to slag him off)... A few people posted saying that there was too much dialogue in his work and Robo, not realising that strips of this nature do tend to carry more speech than "mainstream" strips (again, Morphy is a prime example) and explaining accordingly, took the criticism to heart. He lost enthusiasm for carrying on the stories and just faded away. A sad loss, for he was one of the most promising Poser artists I've ever seen.

Just on the off chance that he's a member here, mate I for one really miss your stuff, and I wish you'd find yourself able to get back into doing creative work (ENF or otherwise) some day. If anyone knows how one can get in touch with him, or knows the URL of any new site he's started up, I'd be grateful for the info. Thanks.

Jessica Drew
 

A.K.A. SPIDERWOMAN. Avengers 12.1

Web Comic
 

Here are some more Futurama fan comic ENF.

Is their an issue in that Futurama comic series where Amy get's naked?

There've been at least a dozen images like that posted in this thread.

A kinda-ENF from Superman Adventures #28, where Superman switches bodies with Jimmy Olsen