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colinkel 09-20-2019 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by openthe4thseal (Post 2786868)
From the Rules:

4. DO NOT post or request photos & videos that are watermarked with another website's name or URL.
5. DO NOT post a picture with the watermark edited out in order to circumvent rule #4.
6. DO NOT post or request any copyrighted material without the consent of the owner.

I'll say it again. The rule doesn't say, "do not crop watermarks." The rules says, "DO NOT POST a picture with the watermark edited out."

This means that it is incumbant on you to check to see if a watermark has been edited.

I will say this again; MOST of the beach pictures here are edited watermarks, which I why I think it best to close the threads since no one is checking.

And I will say THIS again; if you do not like the rule as written by the owner of the site, send him a PM and ask him to change the rules.

How exactly is the average poster supposed to know whether a pic is cropped or not? A lot of the pics posted in this thread originate from other forums and aren't cropped by the posters on this forum. If a poster has to check every single pic posted whether it is cropped or not nothing will ever get posted as a lot of posters don't have time to trawl the internet to try to find out if it's cropped, I know I don't. You might as well close down the whole site as nothing will ever get posted.

Nowhere in the rules does it say that it is incumbant on the member to check if a pic is cropped or not (it only says not to crop pics to avoid posting watermarked pics). This is the job of moderators as yourself to identify these posts and it is incumbant on you, as moderator, to remove such posts.

Now, if a member is knowingly posting cropped pics it's another story but there is almost no way of knowing that for sure and threatening to close a whole thread that is over 700 pages long and almost a decade old over a couple of cropped pics (which is your job as moderator to remove) is a total dick move.:mad:

maxdelmax 09-20-2019 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by colinkel (Post 2786903)
How exactly is the average poster supposed to know whether a pic is cropped or not.
......there is almost no way of knowing that for sure and threatening to close a whole thread that is over 700 pages long and almost a decade old over a couple of cropped pics (which is your job as moderator to remove) is a total dick move.:mad:

It’s really not that hard. If you find a picture of a beautiful girl - naked on a beach in perfect focus - it most likely came from a pro site. But there’s no watermark so you’re tempted to post it anyway. Instead you can easily use the reverseimagesearch[dot]org site, in conjunction with yandex, and resolve about 90% of these probs. Rule 5 shown above does make this our responsibility. I know that I use this frequently if I’m not confident of the source of the pics I post. Also - as has been pointed out - it is WAY more than “a couple of cropped pics”.
I might add that saying a mod’s efforts to maintain this site is a “dick move” is probably not the best tactic. Good luck though...

colinkel 09-20-2019 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by maxdelmax (Post 2786905)
It’s really not that hard. If you find a picture of a beautiful girl - naked on a beach in perfect focus - it most likely came from a pro site. But there’s no watermark so you’re tempted to post it anyway. Instead you can easily use the reverseimagesearch[dot]org site, in conjunction with yandex, and resolve about 90% of these probs. Rule 5 shown above does make this our responsibility. I know that I use this frequently if I’m not confident of the source of the pics I post. Also - as has been pointed out - it is WAY more than “a couple of cropped pics”.
I might add that saying a mod’s efforts to maintain this site is a “dick move” is probably not the best tactic. Good luck though...

Hi Max. My point is that removing a thread that has over 10 million views and that is almost a decade old over one or two offending members is, in my opinion, the definition of a "dick move". This is the most extreme course of action and unnecessary. Why not just ban the members who continue to knowingly post cropped pics?

As for reverse image search, it doesn't always return a result. I've reverse image search pics posted on OCC with Google and Yandex without a result (not even showing the OCC post).

JohnBoy66 09-20-2019 12:03 PM

I agree with Max. I have seen that there are tons of photos from this forum that have been stolen from other sites (I recognize them easily but you can also use the search engine). If you don't have any unique own material, I do not see the point of publishing it here anyway, unless it from a special non-pay site (actually I am tired of all reposts). And reposting material from pay-sites or with logos do not make sense anyway and furthermore you do not follow the rules. I think people who break the rules in this respect should get one warning and then banned, but it's up to the administator. And it's time for members to take their responsibility. I do like this thread, but people must start to behave and follow the rules, some contribute in a fantastic way, but way too many simply reposts things from pay-sites.

openthe4thseal 09-20-2019 01:15 PM

I see we have a reading comprehension problem here, so I'll repeat it again.

The Rules say, "DO NOT POST a picture with the watermark edited out in order to circumvent rule #4."

You say, "it only says not to crop pics to avoid posting watermarked pics." This is totally wrong.

I suggest you read this Sticky, written by the owner of this site more than 13 years ago, titled, "You will be BANNED if you..."

I will repeat the last line of that post:

"Up until now, we have been very generous about editing people's threads for them. From now on if a single photo or video breaks the rules, we may delete the entire post or thread without notice."

Now, tell the owner of this site that his post was a "dick move."

Belini 09-20-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by openthe4thseal (Post 2786860)
The infection seems to be spreading.

Just some of the crops which were removed along with the entire post are on the left and the unedited photos are on the right.


The average person is not going to recognize those exist. I think best you can do is ask where they saved them from and maybe you’ll have a common source you can ward people off from.

Even if you closed the thread, a new one on this topic isn’t gonna have any easier time so you’d need to effectively ban beach pics from being posted.

Flynn77 09-20-2019 04:05 PM

ILTB and Beachvoy are dead and gone - maybe a big reason why so many of their pics are apprearing cropped; however there's no real reason to delete them now that the original sites are not operating, is there? Nobody to bother about a dead copyright.

eaglef15 09-20-2019 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flynn77 (Post 2787049)
ILTB and Beachvoy are dead and gone - maybe a big reason why so many of their pics are apprearing cropped; however there's no real reason to delete them now that the original sites are not operating, is there? Nobody to bother about a dead copyright.

Same for Coccozella, no?

ncis_uk 09-20-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eaglef15 (Post 2787050)
Same for Coccozella, no?

Cocozella is now dead. They have closed their doors so unlikely to give a shit!

ncisUK

openthe4thseal 09-20-2019 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belini (Post 2787030)
The average person is not going to recognize those exist. I think best you can do is ask where they saved them from and maybe you’ll have a common source you can ward people off from.

Even if you closed the thread, a new one on this topic isn’t gonna have any easier time so you’d need to effectively ban beach pics from being posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flynn77 (Post 2787049)
ILTB and Beachvoy are dead and gone - maybe a big reason why so many of their pics are apprearing cropped; however there's no real reason to delete them now that the original sites are not operating, is there? Nobody to bother about a dead copyright.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglef15 (Post 2787050)
Same for Coccozella, no?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncis_uk (Post 2787101)
Cocozella is now dead. They have closed their doors so unlikely to give a shit!

ncisUK

This is not a discussion thread, so I'm going to have the last word. If these are your positions, that the sites are dead so what the hell, then again I ask you to PM Alex, the owner of the site, and ask him to change the rules.

Basically, for the last several years, this thread, and others like it, are nothing but recycled material from previous years. There really is no reason to add to it anymore. Just let them die the deaths they deserve.

somepervert 09-21-2019 11:03 AM

I’ve been a member since 08.... a full member who posted all the time. I deleted my account because I was tired of my well lit and perfectly focused beach photo posts being shredded by one particular mod (who shall remain nameless). They “looked too good” so they were “pro shots”. I shot them myself with a Canon 5D II and a Canon 70-200 IS USM II which is a 2k+ lens. I came back after awhile as a free member just to see if things have improved. They have not. I have better things to do than getting involved in daily pissing contests so now I hardly ever post. So.... the site lost some great content and Alex lost money. Bummer for all involved.

The Busty Girl Game was a huge thread that should’ve never been closed but it was.
Go ahead and close this one too.
OCC is not the only place to find porn on the Internet.
Or... maybe just ban the people who habitually break the rules and forget about all the chest thumping.

dutchey 09-21-2019 02:54 PM

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ripstar1 09-22-2019 12:21 AM

My two cents
 
I’ve been around here for quite a few years. Never posted a picture but posted quite a bit in non-fiction. I enjoy several picture threads and appreciate most all of the posts. I don’t have time to research whether they are repeats or watermarked. I’m here to be entertained. If OCC becomes a pissing contest , finger-pointing forum I will just move on to a more entertaining site.

Flynn77 09-22-2019 05:43 PM

Watermarked pics are mostly from DEAD sites. ILTB and others. Out of business for a year now.

There's no copyright in action any more or anyone bothering to chase it. I and other LOST membership fees on iltb alone when it shut, and no chance of refunds so the last thing you should be bothered about is crooks claiming copyright.

You are worrying over something favourable - the fact watermarks are cropped out is a double bounus,.

clairwill 09-24-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by colinkel (Post 2786903)
How exactly is the average poster supposed to know whether a pic is cropped or not?

well, an easy way is to post only pictures YOU take on the beach...
that will solve your problem and give us some new material... :p

funinva 10-08-2019 09:58 AM

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Look for the mishap.. Enjoy!

manfred1 10-09-2019 06:52 AM

posing
 
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and everybody was looking

denton32 10-10-2019 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by manfred1 (Post 2792458)
and everybody was looking

She made me look. :D

jeffrey_2018 10-10-2019 10:53 AM

New?
 
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Hoping these are all kosher as there are some good ones.

maxdelmax 10-10-2019 09:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ripstar1 (Post 2787429)
I’ve been around here for quite a few years....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flynn77 (Post 2787635)
Watermarked pics are mostly from DEAD sites. ILTB and others....

Beach pics in particular are really easy to check - just open tineye.com and drag the thumbnail of the photo you are going to post onto the TinEye page. It will provide easy links to the originals if they are out there. If you get zero results then you're good to go. If there are results you can then see if you have an original or cropped pic. It would probably take 2 - 3 minutes max for a 10 picture post. (This is all assuming the poster isn't cropping the pics him/herself!!).

But I'm not sure that copyright infringement is the only, or even main, point of the rule. Anyone can just google ilovethebeach or candidtans etc and find an endless stream of these pictures, with each one leading to a dozen more. If OCC allows these then it's a slippery and short slope to just allowing anyone to post anything anytime. Then OCC becomes just another random porn site.

Personally, I like OCC even more because it doesn't allow porn stars or obviously professionally shot and produced photos, and I believe that the mods who try to keep this all under control are just trying to maintain the personality and goal of OCC as an amateur site - even if it makes them unpopular at times.

So, here are some beach pictures! I found these on a flickr account and they seemed to be taken at a Florida beach by some swingers at fantasy fest back in 2002.

maxdelmax 10-10-2019 10:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffrey_2018 (Post 2792790)
Hoping these are all kosher as there are some good ones.

the other cool thing about RIS
and TinEye is that they can help you find more images from a set if they're out there. Like these that go with Jeffrey_2018's awesome post:

[and there's more of her HERE if you'd like to check out more of her vacation]

bondage_lover 10-12-2019 11:03 AM

I strongly believe these pics are taken by you...:cool:where is this place?

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Originally Posted by toastedbread (Post 2781485)
Enjoy


StoneX 10-12-2019 03:40 PM

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beach woman

openthe4thseal 10-12-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by StoneX (Post 2793402)
beach woman

Please stop doing this.

The posted cropped watermarks which were removed are on the left and the unedited photos are on the right.

JohnBoy66 10-14-2019 02:05 PM

Please follow the rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mulder47 (Post 2793827)
:):)

These are reposts from pay-sites with the logo removed, at least some of them. Read the rules!

openthe4thseal 10-14-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mulder47 (Post 2793820)
:):)

Please stop this now.

Here are a few of what I found in this post.

The cropped watermarks and a fake are on the left and the unedited photos are on the right. The entire post was removed.

openthe4thseal 10-14-2019 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mulder47 (Post 2793827)
:):)

Please stop this right now.

Here are a few of what I found in this post.

The cropped watermarks and a fake are on the left and the unedited photos are on the right. The entire post was removed.

openthe4thseal 10-14-2019 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mulder47 (Post 2793830)
:):)

Really, please stop this right now.

Here are a few of what I found in this post.

The cropped watermarks and photoshopped fake are on the left and the unedited photos are on the right. The entire post was removed.

openthe4thseal 10-14-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mulder47 (Post 2793831)
:):)

One way or another, this is not going to happen again.

More cropped watermarks.

Here's just one. The whole post was removed.

billsnow 10-14-2019 04:44 PM

Nude Beach Babe
 
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Cute little thing walking the beach and back to the Bar

mulder47 10-15-2019 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by openthe4thseal (Post 2793963)
Please stop this now.

Here are a few of what I found in this post.

The cropped watermarks and a fake are on the left and the unedited photos are on the right. The entire post was removed.

excusez moi je ne savais pas

EllisJohn 10-15-2019 06:22 PM

Sunday Beach girls
 
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Let it all hang out

openthe4thseal 10-16-2019 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by EllisJohn (Post 2794312)
Let it all hang out

*****FAKE ALERT*****

Really?

One of the posted fakes which was removed is on the left and the real photo is on the right.

JGrin 10-16-2019 01:52 AM

Why?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by openthe4thseal (Post 2794382)
*****FAKE ALERT*****

Really?

One of the posted fakes which was removed is on the left and the real photo is on the right.

Why would someone feel the need to enhance(?) with that natural beauty on the right?

EllisJohn 10-16-2019 07:53 AM

fake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by openthe4thseal (Post 2794382)
*****FAKE ALERT*****

Really?

One of the posted fakes which was removed is on the left and the real photo is on the right.

both are the same one is closer than the other . NO FAKE PIC HERE .Where are your Glasses.....

jeffrey_2018 10-16-2019 08:51 AM

More pics
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by EllisJohn (Post 2794439)
both are the same one is closer than the other . NO FAKE PIC HERE .Where are your Glasses.....

I think you may need the glasses my friend. Look at her breasts! Anyway.......more beach pics here.

openthe4thseal 10-16-2019 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EllisJohn (Post 2794439)
both are the same one is closer than the other . NO FAKE PIC HERE .Where are your Glasses.....



You are questioning me? When you are clearly wrong? Where are your brains?

I'll give you some time to say goodbye to everyone.

octopus28 10-16-2019 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EllisJohn (Post 2794439)
both are the same one is closer than the other . NO FAKE PIC HERE .Where are your Glasses.....

Where are YOUR glasses??

Look at the hips and breast, this should be obvious enough..

nudesimon 10-17-2019 09:26 AM

Good lord!
 
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Can we please get back on topic and let Openthe4thseal go back to watching in peace...?

Here is some OC...

osreb 10-18-2019 02:43 PM

TGIF
 
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beach babe


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