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Old 10-10-2022, 02:51 PM
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Years ago I read a story about a guy who bought health club gym with a swimming pool. He wanted it to be a nude club. His wife and daughter worked there and they even hired a female life guard. Thanks in advance.
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Hello all,

Looking for another story that I failed to save from the ASN storyboard before it got shut down.

A girl is coerced into playing basketball against a group of her guy friends on her community college court in nothing but a pair of panties, but is caught by the dean, who forces her to play in an exhibition game in front of the entire school in just her panties.

She is further punished by being forced to write lines on a chalkboard set up in a public area, also wearing nothing but her panties. She ends up becoming involved in a psychology study that leads to further public nudity and embarrassment.

Anybody have a copy of this story that they could share?

Thank you in advance!
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Old 11-04-2022, 08:32 PM
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So I got a complaint today from one of Chyoa's founders and backers. They didn't feel right about some of the content on Lauren's Little Secret. I'm trying to work something out, but if they make a big enough deal about it I'll be forced to delete the story. I might just delete my whole Chyoa account, depending how this turns out.

So, if your someone who's contributed, or just a fan please archive any of the story you want. I don't have time today to do so, we'll see how this turns out. Here's a link if anyone wants to get access to the story:
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Wait, so what specifically is the problem? Also, who is telling you to delete stuff? Basically the only administrator I know is Friedman; if he's not the one talking to you, I would recommend messaging him.
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Yeah he was uncomfortable about the adult character being described as looking immature. I sort of get that but I'm just trying to tell a small breast embarrassment story in the body shame manner I really like. It's my particular kink, a lot of people like it and I 'm not violating board rules as far as I can tell. Lauren is of course an adult and clearly stated as such.
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If it's clearly stated that she's an adult (and you aren't laying on too thick like, "she specifically has the body of a 13 year old" or something to that effect), I'm fairly certain it's fine. I don't think you need to delete anything. After all, it's not as if petite women don't exist, right?
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Something like "TvTropes" but for this genre might be an interesting idea. I suppose you can already search by what turns you on but stories divided into the usual tropes like "padded bra" "forced streaking in mall."

Anyways I've been trying to get into the CHYOA stuff, there's only a few stories I find I really like (though if I'm not adding stuff I like to it I don't have much ground to complain), but I find it difficult to really parse through. Has anyone made a script or something that can download a whole story into a .mobi or .epub or similar file? Seems like being able to flip through it easily offline would be a good selling point.
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My stories over on Chyoa.com have dried up on contributions lately. So, I figured something fresh might inspire more additions. I created two new ENF stories, each with multiple characters to follow!

Body Image Issues, about girl's having their secret shames revealed! This will include everything from small breasts, big butts, thick girls, skinny legs, or whatever things a girl might be ashamed of that the writer's will enjoy!



The second is Fit Girl ENF, about strong muscular girls being revealed. They might be proud of their bodies, but who knows how their react when their revealed against their will!



Everyone feel free to comment, add or share.
See, I could maybe see a TINY bit of merit to CHYOA staff's suspicious if your thing was ONLY small breast shaming. I don't believe porn needs to be realistic, but I see women shamed for all kinds of physical features and body types. In my personal experience, I've seen many women shamed for being too tall, too muscular, too busty (that one's most common), and looking too old for her age. But I've only ever seen small breast shaming in fiction, so it kinda bothers me that the body shaming kink is usually so one-note about small breasts when there's so much more potential there for the shaming of other body types or physical characteristics.

But that merit doesn't apply here because your thing is body shaming kink in general, not small breast shaming specifically. So in addition to that invalidating that potential merit (and even if it did, I still would think that merit doesn't justify their suspicion and CHYOA was still in the wrong and potentially trying to deny that woman who look certain ways IRL exist), I have to thank you for giving some much-needed variety to an otherwise one-note genre that I'm involved in.

This does track with my experience writing for CHYOA and dealing with their staff, though. CHYOA's admins and mods are terrible at enforcing their rules with any rationality or fairness. CHYOA's head admin/site owner Friedman and #1 mod Gene.sis shadowbanned me because I refused to accept their claim that three of my characters were underage.

Why did they claim this? See, my characters were all clearly listed as 18+ in age, they were fantasy races in a setting that had things like dwarves, gnomes, and Hobbits, two of them had huge boobs, and they all acted like mature adults with roles in society that would suggest working adults. So why were they underage in the eyes of Friedman and Gene.sis?

They were all under five feet in height.

I'm not kidding.

Despite having a full Fantasy category on their own site, any time I pointed out that people like Aoi Yuuki and Stephanie Sheh were under five feet in height IRL and still considered legal adults, Friedman and Gene.sis would dodge my point. Their claim fit neither the spirit nor the letter of their rules, yet to them, my characters HAD to be underage and they would say anything (including some really gross and creepy things about toddlers with boulder-sized tits) to try and force my square peg into their rules' round hole.

And Friedman is the same guy who:
-Refuses to do anything about a guy who's sexually harassed nearly every user with "female" in their profile on the site because, in his own words, sexual harrassment isn't against the rules... that he wrote.
-Will defend clear trolling story posts with lame excuses like "it's just [insert niche fetish]."
-Has allowed a user to repeatly plagiarize stories both on and off the site and shows no sign of stopping no matter how many times one of his plagiarized stories is deleted.
-Will go to creepy lengths to defend a story called "Jailbait" which is about a legal loli honey trapping sexual predators by going full nymphet on them and intentionally trying to look like a sexy child.

To Friedman as the owner of CHYOA, the rules don't actually matter. He'll rules lawyer anything to try and claim the rules are only what he says they are and if you object too much, he'll shadowban you and edit your stories, comments, and profile to make it look like you willingly left the site all to cover up a scandal he caused.
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:01 PM
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Years ago I read a story about a guy who bought health club gym with a swimming pool. He wanted it to be a nude club. His wife and daughter worked there and they even hired a female life guard. Thanks in advance.
Oh yeah I remember reading that on ASSTR. Sorry but since ASSTR is down and has shown no signs of going back up for months, I think for now it's completely lost.

That said, I think you might be misremembering it. The guy didn't want to make it a nude club. He wanted to make it a nude men's club. And the extreme commitment to male-only nudity is so extreme that even though clothed-female-nude-male is one of the I'm into I still found myself rolling my eyes rather than jilling myself off.

Female guests aren't allowed inside the club.

The male employees are forced to go naked against their will yet still work there despite not liking it.

His wife and daughter have to stay clothed and work in the back.

He hires a busty female lifeguard but despite the author hyping up the idea that she'll have to go nude like the guys, she shows up in a swimsuit. The owner says he felt it unfair to force her to go nude like he does the guys and despite the fact that they seem to set up a plot thread that she'll change her mind because she sees how betrayed the guys feel and she seems to feel bad about her decision, this potential plot thread is completely abandoned and her being allowed to wear clothes as the only female employee when every other employee and guest is forced to go nude never comes up again.

Any view the nude male guests might feel about a solo clothed female lifeguard never gets explored.

It was also very poorly written. Lacking in detail or description, it comes across more like a summary of events rather than actual depictions of them. It also does this bizarre, lazy thing where there's no dialogue. Just narration that says what the characters are discussing or the points they're making but doesn't actually depict them saying them. I remember reading it and finding it just strange in all aspects and not at all erotic, interesting, or entertaining, while also showing immense missed potential.
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Old 11-05-2022, 06:23 PM
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See, I could maybe see a TINY bit of merit to CHYOA staff's suspicious if your thing was ONLY small breast shaming.
This was a while back, and I'd frankly forgotten about it. I remember it freaking me out, because I felt like it was so off base to my intent and what I thought my words read as. I'm glad there was no follow up as far as I recall, though I've definitely expanded to include more body shame kink type stuff. It was never limited to the small breast embarrassment, that's just what inspired these stories to start with, from my own real life experiences with beautiful, insecure women.

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Oh yeah I remember reading that on ASSTR. Sorry but since ASSTR is down and has shown no signs of going back up for months, I think for now it's completely lost.

That's it, but if I remember correctly, the club becomes co-ed at least one day a week. Not sure but don't the ladies on the co-ed days want to go nude?

I agree most of these stories are poorly written, but the general theme is what makes them exciting. I prefer CMNF stories, but some CFNM stories are also interesting.

Speaking about other CFNM stories, I recall reading a couple of stories by a person who called himself Barney. Was he European? Stories about him stripping in front of Betty or Veronica. Some stories she was the naked one. I have tried searching for them to reread, but no luck.

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Old 11-09-2022, 01:53 PM
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This was a while back, and I'd frankly forgotten about it. I remember it freaking me out, because I felt like it was so off base to my intent and what I thought my words read as. I'm glad there was no follow up as far as I recall, though I've definitely expanded to include more body shame kink type stuff. It was never limited to the small breast embarrassment, that's just what inspired these stories to start with, from my own real life experiences with beautiful, insecure women.
Yup that's exactly what happened to me. My characters were simply small-bodied fantasy races in a fantasy world, and everything about their looks, development, mentality, biology, chronology, and societal roles said "these are adults by IRL standards." Yet Gene.sis and Friedman insisted my characters were children and wouldn't listen to any single argument or counterpoint about it, even when I quoted the very rules they wrote and I had followed to the letter and spirit. It was just surreal how they were willing to say literally anything, no matter how gross or disturbing, to gaslight me as having written CP. It was like they desperately wanted my writing to be CP and at one point they tried to justify it by explaining puberty to a woman they knew was in her 30s and... I mean, I'm no feminist, but the term "mansplaining" comes to mind. XD

I admit while I've never personally met a flat-chested woman who was insecure about it, this might just be sample size on my part. I'm a petite, flat-chested, and short woman who has always been confident enough that I don't mind being seen nude and I always got a ton of positive attention from guys for it while my busty friends were always left dateless and shamed for their well-endowed nature. But I also was like one of the few girls in my high school who actually wasn't busty so it's clear that I just lived in an area with a higher breast size average.

Lately I've been dabbling more in large breast shaming and large dick shaming in my stories, especially since I've found creative ways to make them cause or extend exposure via clothes not being large enough for their assets and makeshift clothing being inadequate to cover all they've got. I've also discovered a fun thing where a relatively scrawny guy with a disproportionately large dick might get lightheaded when all the blood goes to it so I've had fun using that in such stories. There's also potential stealth to consider. If a woman is sneaking through the neighborhood nude, a petite and flat-chested girl is more likely to be able to squeaze through a tight space or hide in a smaller location than a woman who's more voluptuous and busty.

Admittedly though as much as I will sing the failings of Friedman and warn people about just how much he mismanages his site, unfairly enforces his rules, and abuses his authority... I'd still come back if he just changed his mind about shadowbanning me. I had a lot of fun writing on that site and the format was perfect for my ADHD and extroversion.

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That's it, but if I remember correctly, the club becomes co-ed at least one day a week. Not sure but don't the ladies on the co-ed days want to go nude?

I agree most of these stories are poorly written, but the general theme is what makes them exciting. I prefer CMNF stories, but some CFNM stories are also interesting.

Speaking about other CFNM stories, I recall reading a couple of stories by a person who called himself Barney. Was he European? Stories about him stripping in front of Betty or Veronica. Some stories she was the naked one. I have tried searching for them to reread, but no luck.
Either one of us is misremembering or this was a different story, a sequel, or an edited version that added more because I don't remember any co-ed day of the week at all and I would think I would since my consternation with it was the egregiously extreme commitment to women not getting naked. And this is a particularly sensitive issue with me because while I like both CFNM and CMNF, I actually have different preferences for them (and I only ever am in the mood for one, not the other).

None of this is criticism for the kink, mind! Just my preference for CFNM/CMNF works I consume and enjoy. Oh, and I'm not sure if you misread and I was unclear, but when I complained about writing quality, I was referring to the story you were asking about, not this genre in general.

See, for CMNF, I prefer total one-sided nudity. When another girl stumbles upon her naked and winds up naked as well, I actually don't like that. I prefer she stay the only one naked because I enjoy the contrast of nude to many being clothed and I enjoy the enhanced vulnerability or brazenness she expresses because of this. When another girl gets involved, I find it more appealing to me if she's teasing the nude girl rather than getting roped into the exposure.

Whereas with CFNM I tend to find that too many works go way too far into extremes with abuse and misandrist unfairness even if it means portraying the male protagonist as a doormat and all the female characters as sociopaths (I think such stories have every right to exist, but I don't personally enjoy or prefer them). So I like it when the girls aren't prudes who deny him any skin. Granted, I know them getting nude defeats the purpose of CFNM, but I enjoy when one of the girls is willing to flash the naked guy or gets topless while he's nude.

I suppose part of it is that I'm a woman (and thus not the male target audience) and a domme, so my experience in BDSM and my mentality as a dominant means I can't vicariously relate to the nude male's situation since I'm not a submissive and I can't relate to the women in such stories since I'm not a rapist. So I prefer a more gentle take on CFNM.

I also have trouble relating to SPH becuase, in addition to the issue of women too-often being portrayed as sociopaths in many of these stories, caring about penis size is more of a guy thing. Like, as odd as it sounds, us girls just don't care about penis size as much as guys do. In fact, I actually prefer small penises over large ones. They're more comfortable, safer, and a big one is like an expensive sports car: Flashy yet impractical and intimidating. The vageej has a limited capacity after all. XD

Overall I'd say that while I like CMNF more, I'm actually less picky about CFNM and consume more of it since it's easier to find.
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I haven't really had any problems with CHYOA, the handful of times I've interacted with Friedman have been pretty positive. I remember being really frustrated with the writing.com paywall bullshit back in 2016/1017 and pushing people to switch to CHYOA when I first started writing.

Those were the days, teaming up with Writerperson to make some new ENF stories, most of which are still up today: Celebrity ENF, Stripped on Screen, The Digital Disrobing, I don't even remember the original names of the stories, but they all started out with the theme of Permanent Nudity. It's a shame he had to stop writing due to personal reasons, but he put them in ewong's very safe hands. Back then, there was so much transformation content and without me even noticing, it stopped at some point.
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