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Interesting subject.. I once saw a guy in Greece sat on a beach using a mirror in a fake telephone lens which allowed him to take photographs at a right angle to the camera. The thing was it was so obvious everyone could see this and abused him for it.. he was humiliated.. Later in the evening he was refused entry to a bar as he was recognised as 'that pervert from the beach'...
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do you do this often? Klondike |
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However, you are committing criminal acts in destroying photographers property, providing false information to police (on felony matters no less), and inciting mob actions against a legal activity. You are asking for an escalation of violence that will impact all users of the beach and will end up ruining the beach experience for everyone. I would ask you to consider that photographers have a legal right to photograph on the beach with or without your consent. Your threatening behavior is not good for anyone on the beach, and is unlikely to resolve anything. Your getting spit on is hardly surprising (but still wrong). I don’t consider myself a perv and would not be intimidated by your silly iPhone tricks. I am not sure why you feel you have a more important right to be at the beach than mine. But, it doesn’t fly with me. Please think this issue through and decide if the confrontation is really what you desire when you go to the beach. Respecting the legal rights of everyone is a better policy. |
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the only safe way to get pics is a hidden cam or some small device that you can get at the spy store....ones that are discreet.
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If the individual was doing nothing illegal than they shouldn't have been trying to hide their actions. |
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I completely respect photographer's legal rights and I mentioned that in my original post, which is why I always nicely ask them to delete photos of us before any other action. My hope in trying this approach first is any photographer will respect our request to not be photographed and our need for discression in exposing our nude activities. I'm very much a conflict avoidance person and always attempt a level headed approach before escalating.
I've destroyed exactly one memory card when I felt the photographer's actions would adversely affect my and my wife's personal life. And I'd do it again if the situation were to ever repeat itself. I've spent enough time at nude beaches to say that you'd much rather me confronting you than 90% of the other people I've seen confront voyeur photographers. If everyone is so confident in their impunity for taking voyeur photos on nude beaches, then why conceal the activity? Is it because you fear confrontation or know that there's a moral issue with what you're doing? Let me flip this on its head and ask, if you were confronted by someone who caught you taking photos of them, and they asked you to delete those photos -- what would your reaction be? Would you comply, fight or flight? I knew I'd get flamed for my reply to this thread. Just trying to provide a counter-point. |
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Maybe if there weren't hypocrites like yourself throwing your weight around he wouldn't have felt the need to do try and hide what he was doing?
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no surprise
I wondered how long it would take for this to blow up
Defending the indefensible is never going to work,illicit photography whether actually illegal or not will by its nature be emotive. Voyeuristic photography by definition is invasive and any invasive action is bound to have a consequence at some point. |
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Reread what I wrote. I never said I was surprised and I never pressed charges. He assaulted me, in front of a police officer (who he called) and the police officer chose to have the State take legal action. Was I completely right in my actions? Nope, not trying to say I was. Just trying to protect my, and my wife's likeness, from being used against us at some point. I don't expect you to respect my position, I'm simply providing context and clarity to how I, as someone on the other side of the lens, feels.
I think friend is a bit strong. He was another guy on the beach who was sick of this guy taking photos when asked, by multiple people, to stop. The camera in question was hidden in a cookie box. Quote:
If my wife and I see someone walking down the beach with a camera fully exposed and we don't want to be photographed we cover ourselves. Simple as that. No words are ever exchanged, nor do they need to be. They have just as much of a right to be there, with a camera, as we do. It's the folks who hide the cameras that creates the animosity and the uncomfortable environment. I understand I'm in the minority within this board on this position, but take a logical step back. If you survey the average nude beach goer whether or not voyeur photography should be allowed - how many people do you think would say they'd prefer if it was banned? Certainly greater than the majority. I don't advocate for anyone but myself and my wife. If I see someone taking voyeur photos I don't take it upon myself to police the beach, unless I see the camera being pointed at us, at which point - as I mentioned - I ask very politely to erase the photos they've taken of us. The majority of the time the individual complies and we both go on our way. |
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ha ha!!
NoPubes,you have been trodding in the HORNET'S NEST.....I would give in if I were you,....on OCC you can never expect to be awarded for your unacceptable behavior...ha!!...I rest my case...
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