Request: Advice on Producing ENF Videos

[Royal B]

Years of trawling the internet in search of quality ENF videos have left me somewhat frustrated. My addiction to ENF started with strip poker and has grown from there. I've found plenty of great stuff over the years, sure, but if I'm honest I have to admit that I've yet to find a strip poker video that truly satisfies me.

Like many here, I have a particular style of that I like. Nothing terribly unique. Here it is, in a strip poker context:

1. A young woman loses and has to reluctantly strip or be stripped in front of a room full of people
2. Preferably, the woman is friends with the other people in the room
3. Even better, the woman's boyfriend is present and has to watch as others see her naked body for the first time
4. The woman is shy, blushes while stripping/being stripped, maybe even shakes nervously as it happens
5. People comment (positively) on her naked body, but in a way that furthers her embarrassment/modesty
6. She is left naked for a period of time, has to perform certain tasks in front of the others
7. No one else is at risk for losing their clothes, once she's naked

Lately, I've been thinking about making a video myself. Given the state of today's economy, the high cost of college, and the tendency for college-age kids to want to experiment with their sexuality, I'm wondering if it might be possible to recruit a group of college kids (preferably four friends, mixed guys and girls) for a video shoot. I'd start with strip poker, renting out a hotel room, and filming a couple of games.

Interested in getting advice from anyone on this forum about the viability of such an endeavor, suggestions on how to recruit/screen talent, what to pay them, legality, etc. Ultimately, I envision creating a series of videos for a web site or even DVD sales. In the spirit of being genuine, generating interest from couples (not just men), and expanding my audience, I'd create a game in which all players regardless of sex are at risk for losing. Means I'd end up with some videos that don't fit my tastes, but that's ok too.

And strip poker is just the beginning of it. I've got a whole list of ideas for stripping games involving real amateur friends/couples, some of which I feel are unique enough to merit some interest/excitement. For the record, I also have some (limited) videography and script writing experience.

Here are my strip poker rules. Comments on these are also welcome.

Strip Down:
• 4 players (2 male, 2 female)

• 5-card draw or straight (tbd)

• 5 articles of clothing (removed in this order):
o shoes and socks
o shirt or blouse
o pants or skirt
o bra or undershirt
o panties or briefs/boxers

• Low hand forfeits an article of clothing

• High hand is given the option to:
o remove low hand’s article of clothing
o select another player to remove low hand’s article of clothing
o direct low hand to remove her/his own article of clothing

• When an article of clothing is removed, the loser must stand up
o shoes/socks are the only exception

• Every player has the option to fold once per game
o when a player folds, that player is assumed to have had the lowest hand—no one forfeits any clothes for that hand

• Play continues as above until one person is completely naked

Dress Up:
• Once a person is naked, they stay naked until they win 3 hands (winning hands do not have to be consecutive)
o after winning 3 hands, the loser stands up and gets completely dressed in front of the group—this ends the game

• During the dress-up round, other players win back their articles of clothing as follow:
o 2 hands = bra/undershirt
o 1 hand for each article of clothing after that (pants/skirt, shirt/blouse, shoes and socks)

• If the naked player is ever the low hand during the dress-up round, he/she draws from a deck of face cards and is required to complete the task assigned to the drawn card:
o 10 = 1 minute of jumping jacks or running in place (high hand’s choice)
o Jack = masturbate in front of the group for 1 minute
o Queen = perform a split or spread your legs for 1 minute
o King = allow high hand to grope you for 1 minute (high hand has the option to assign task to another player)
o Ace = allow high hand to jerk you off for 1 minute (high hand has the option to assign task to another player)

Thanks for commenting. Sorry for the lengthy post!

[snowdog]

I reckon it's gonna be easier to set up a friendly game with the help of a lot of booze and some guy friends who are strategic a little. See the TV show ''Undeclared'' for an episode where the guy set up a strategy to play, it's far fetched but I used more credible variations in my life and have had major success. Never did could shoot a video tho

Anyway I'd go for the amateur unpaid way if you want the real ''shy'' feel because the girl who'll accept your current offer won't be shy for shit.

Also, please post any findings you have as your description of the perfect video is exactly mine also

[indraguy]

One route you might consider is having a custom video made. There are many models you can find on the internet who will do custom videos. They are expensive compared to a stock video, of course, but they can be a good value if you find that the stock videos available are never quite what you are looking for. You can buy 10 stock videos that have a minute or two that really pushes your buttons or you can buy one custom video that is exactly to your specifications all the way through.

To do a full scene as you described with several people in the scene may be prohibitively expensive as a custom video, since the costs are going to jump up the more "actors" that have to be paid. But if you were able to "suspend disbelief" and would be content to have a video that focused on just one model who played the scene and pretended to be playing strip poker with a group of "imaginary" people who are off camera I am sure you could find a number of models who could do that. You could have the model wear any kind of outfit you liked and direct her reactions the way you wanted them. But if you wanted a more "realistic" scene that had a number of people in it that you could see all interacting with each other - that might cost more than you want to pay. You might want to do a bit of searching on the internet for models who do custom videos and just send a few emails inquiring about what you are interested in and seeing what the costs would be.

[nobusmindingi]

Could you do a variation on the above using amateurs, but offer to pay the winners? Maybe everybody gets a fee, but the winners get bigger bucks. Might have to run the drill a few times (play several games) to get the results you're looking for ... but I'm thinking you'd have a BIG seller on your hands, if that's your bag.

Then again, I probably just described Dare Ring, didn't I. Well, at least we know the model works, yes? And there's always room in the market for a second good competitor.

I've always liked the idea of having two couples play against each other. They're teammates, but everybody strips individually.

Have fun. And thanks for kicking this off. Should be a fun discussion.

Nobus

[Slick]

Sounds great, Royal B. It's definitely hard to find a real video of amateur strip poker. Most of the stuff out there is either from Non-American TV shows or some setup to a porno.

You came to the right forum to get suggestions and advice. I would suggest contacting Red or Crosis ( both on this forum or you can find them at: http://blog.lostbets.com/ ) Red started it and it seems pretty successful....they could maybe give you some tips.

[Royal B]

Thanks all for the feedback. Nobus, I love the idea of paying the winners. Been thinking about it and it might make a nice incentive. I'm thinking about writing an ad for Craig's List soliciting 4 friends (couples) from local colleges. Need to do some research into best ways to get the word out on campuses. Hear you Indra on the custom vid thing but I just don't think it's gonna float my boat. I'm determined to find a way to make this work by getting real folks, somehow. Even if I need to start with exhibitionists and try to get them to act shy and reluctant. We'll see.

I'll keep the board posted as things progress.

[Helmhood]

You mentioned that you have some videography and script writing experience. So to me, it sounds like you are definitely going for something creative here, and structured.

I would suggest working with models. Actresses would be ideal, but it will be difficult to find girls who are "career" minded who would do this sort of material. But there are lots of up and coming models who would like to branch out into acting. These would be a good choice.

If you can find enough amateur and real-life college kids, then by all means go for it. But don't underestimate the reluctance a normal young woman will have to taking off her clothes for a stranger, for video distribution. Even if they are paid. Keep in mind, I am based in New York, it may be different where you are.

As always, I am a fan of all good ENF content, so I wish you the best of luck with this and subsequent projects!

[nobusmindingi]

Originally Posted by Royal B

Thanks all for the feedback. Nobus, I love the idea of paying the winners. Been thinking about it and it might make a nice incentive. I'm thinking about writing an ad for Craig's List soliciting 4 friends (couples) from local colleges. Need to do some research into best ways to get the word out on campuses. Hear you Indra on the custom vid thing but I just don't think it's gonna float my boat. I'm determined to find a way to make this work by getting real folks, somehow. Even if I need to start with exhibitionists and try to get them to act shy and reluctant. We'll see.

I'll keep the board posted as things progress.

Seems like Craig's would be a perfect place to start, esp. in a college town.

"Seeking 2 open minded, fun couples to star in a strip card game video. Unrehearsed, spontaneous production. Winners will be paid ($$), losers will pay (with their clothes!). Not porn, no sex, just sexy fun."

[darkwarriorkane]

the ad sounds perfect but it's missing one word. "Giggity!"

[bmwrider]

I think you should make the video and sell it, you could charge only enough to clear costs and get what you want as many times as you want it and not lose any money, you would have to pay the models first and then get your money back when you sell them, you could make money if you like but the videos would go faster if you just sell them low and break even sucess would come quick people would buy them up real fast at low prices and then your set a large library of strip poker vids made your way.

Make it simple the the players to drink and have fun while you run video, it would not even matter if the viewers knew the player were being payed and filmed because in the end they are just playing a game of strip poker.