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Old 04-24-2005, 04:09 PM
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Back in college, I knew a guy who was a pretty good amateur hypnotist. He used to perform sometimes at frat houses, hypnotizing the girls and starting them on a strip-tease. He claims he never actually allowed them to go very far, but the idea has always intrigued me. Does anyone out there have or know of pictures of hypnotized coeds stripping without really knowing what they're doing? I think it would be quite a rush.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:31 PM
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I'm a professional hypnotist by trade, and have been for decades.

The guy (and/or gals) were putting you on. You can not make anyone do anything against their will
in hypnosis. If you could, it would be outlawed and wouldn't be approved by the AMA.

Nice idea, but simply not true.
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I saw a hypnotist perform in a casino once and it was a great show. He used audiance members, put them under and made them do silly things. I never stopped laughing. At one point he said; "You are cold and can't get warm."
They all shivered and balled up as if to get warm. Then he said "You are hot and can't get cool". They began to fan themselves, on gal began to take her shirt off. The hypnotist stopped her, but I swear she would have done it if he hadn't intervened.

Here's a link I found while surfing:

http://www.hypnovideo.com

He has free pics and some pics under each of the video's for sale. That is were the attached photos are from.
There is also some annimation vids and other items. He sells the video's for about $20.00 each and you can download some in the members area.

If any one purchases any or joins; please give us a critique and let us know if they are worth it.

Like the guy above said; the ones with nudity may be all stagged, but you may want to check it out.
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Old 04-24-2005, 06:58 PM
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All acting. None of it true.
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:08 PM
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There was an above comment from someone who has done hypnotism for several decades, that if hypnosis could accomplish someone performing something against one's will, it would be outlawed, and a comment on AMA opinion.

First, the easy part: It doesn't matter what the AMA believes. They don't control hypnotism, and have, for decades, denounced it. (Though most modernly will tell you there is validity in it.) The AMA simply has no authority over ANYTHING, anymore than you and three of your friends. They do, however, have influence and money, and many of their suggestions do become law.

Now for the hard part: This is part of a legal concept called consent, and volumes have been written about it. Here is an area of law that of course has not a lot of commentary by judges, because there are no real incidents. And outlawing it would be VERY DIFFICULT to do so, ikf even constitutional.

Let's say I'm a man who wants to bed a woman, and read a book on hypnotism, and, using no drugs or other obvious means, use the techniques in the book, and she goes to bed with me. Did I succeed in using hypnotism?

What if I plant a woman to sit at a bar next to me and comment, to another plant, "Hey, that's X (referring to me). Do you know the last three women to sleep with him all got promotions or the jobs they wanted. And another won $50,000 on a slot machine?" All I did was perfectly legal (though perhaps underhanded) conduct to plant in the mind of a mark an idea. I then exploited the idea. Was any of it legal? Illegal?

Hypnosis is based on the concept of suggestion, which itself can be overt or subliminal. Since males will use ANYTHING to try and bed a girl, it is nearly impossible to prevent them from using subliminal suggestion.

Not to put lkn2myis (who says he's a hypnotist) on the spot, but I'd like to see him write a law that would be constitutional and successful at preventing Johnny-Read-A-Book from using hypnotism. Or, Johnny-Take-A-Course for the matter of that. It just can't be done. I'm more inclinded to agree with him that people cannot be hypnotized into stripping, almost all people anyway. If we take his comment at face value, it means that no one could be hypnotized into doing anything embarrassing, like flap like a chicken, etc. But it doens't work that way. It's not like we all have an anti-stripping device built in our brains: Yes, humiliate ourselves by hopping on one foot: No, taking our top off is just wrong.

Suffice to say that, based on several hundred years of playing with this sort of thing, 99.9% of the public is simply not suggestible to nudity through suggestion, without drugs or other inducements. But there is probably that .01%, and people who will exploit them, and, Like P.T. Barnum said about a sucker and their money might also be said about a gulible woman and her bra.

Jes
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To see women hypnotized into stripping and dancing, Anton Video has a site to sell their videos that shows a lot of skin:

http://www.antonvideo.com/anton/complete.html

The previews also include downloadable mpegs you can keep on your computer. They are a poor quality compared to the purchased feeds, but they are free.

Scott, my husband, is obsessed about nonconsentual anything, and I get to play these games with him. Sorry to babble on hal_81, but you hit a fetish.

Ha!
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At the risk of belaboring this (after all, what we're after is pictures of people stripping under hypnosis--if possible), I will agree that you can't be hypnotized into doing anything you wouldn't do anyway (or so my Psych professor said). However, imagine the following scenario: A frat party (or sorority, I suppose) with lots of alchohol (are there any other types?). An amateur hypnotist puts several girls in the front of the room and under hypnosis, suggests that they are at a wet t-shirt contest during spring break. Since there is a large possibility that these girls would willingly participate in the real thing, I imagine (or hope) they would do it under hypnosis. What about it?

Now back to the REAL subject, does anyone have any pictures to share and potentially prove my hypothesis?
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Originally Posted by Jessica Savage
There was an above comment from someone who has done hypnotism for several decades, that if hypnosis could accomplish someone performing something against one's will, it would be outlawed, and a comment on AMA opinion.

First, the easy part: It doesn't matter what the AMA believes. They don't control hypnotism, and have, for decades, denounced it. (Though most modernly will tell you there is validity in it.) The AMA simply has no authority over ANYTHING, anymore than you and three of your friends. They do, however, have influence and money, and many of their suggestions do become law.

Now for the hard part: This is part of a legal concept called consent, and volumes have been written about it. Here is an area of law that of course has not a lot of commentary by judges, because there are no real incidents. And outlawing it would be VERY DIFFICULT to do so, ikf even constitutional.

Let's say I'm a man who wants to bed a woman, and read a book on hypnotism, and, using no drugs or other obvious means, use the techniques in the book, and she goes to bed with me. Did I succeed in using hypnotism?

What if I plant a woman to sit at a bar next to me and comment, to another plant, "Hey, that's X (referring to me). Do you know the last three women to sleep with him all got promotions or the jobs they wanted. And another won $50,000 on a slot machine?" All I did was perfectly legal (though perhaps underhanded) conduct to plant in the mind of a mark an idea. I then exploited the idea. Was any of it legal? Illegal?

Hypnosis is based on the concept of suggestion, which itself can be overt or subliminal. Since males will use ANYTHING to try and bed a girl, it is nearly impossible to prevent them from using subliminal suggestion.

Not to put lkn2myis (who says he's a hypnotist) on the spot, but I'd like to see him write a law that would be constitutional and successful at preventing Johnny-Read-A-Book from using hypnotism. Or, Johnny-Take-A-Course for the matter of that. It just can't be done. I'm more inclinded to agree with him that people cannot be hypnotized into stripping, almost all people anyway. If we take his comment at face value, it means that no one could be hypnotized into doing anything embarrassing, like flap like a chicken, etc. But it doens't work that way. It's not like we all have an anti-stripping device built in our brains: Yes, humiliate ourselves by hopping on one foot: No, taking our top off is just wrong.

Suffice to say that, based on several hundred years of playing with this sort of thing, 99.9% of the public is simply not suggestible to nudity through suggestion, without drugs or other inducements. But there is probably that .01%, and people who will exploit them, and, Like P.T. Barnum said about a sucker and their money might also be said about a gulible woman and her bra.

Jes
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It DOES matter what the AMA says. They help determine what happens medically in the USA, whether anyone likes it or not, whether they are always acurate or not. They are the governing body.

Next, regarding your statement, you first have to have a workable understanding of hypnosis and the DEFINITION
of what hypnosis actually is. Don't be confused into thinking that suggestions is hypnosis - it simply isn't.

The N.G.H. (National Guild of Hypnotists), the largest certifiying organization for hypnotists in the world, has been
lobbying for licensing for this trade for several years, and we are getting closer. It needs to be regulated more closely from stopping the clowns who think they can simply read a book about the subject and claim that they are
hypnotists. My initial training involved over 300 hours, and I must attend an additional 28 hours of training a year in
order to keep my board certification.

Any site that shows women doing things that they don't want to do under hypnosis is bogus, simple as that. You can enjoy them for what they are, but ti doesn't involve hypnosis.

People are always ready to believe whatever they hear or see on TV about hypnosis as fact, a source of amusement
to me.
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