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Carsondcarson 03-23-2017 07:49 PM

Suggest for non clickable links...
 
Hi,

A quick suggestion, I keep seeing the mods posting notes to make links non clickable (Especially Flickr). Could we add "HTTP:" and "WWW." to the banned word list? Like "sl*t", "b*tch", "wh*r*".

That would make:

http://www.oneclickchicks.com

*****//****oneclickchicks.com or even h**p://***.oneclickchicks.com

Things like ww1.oneclickchicks.com would not be translated to a link anyway.

Or something similar, may save a lot of time and hassle and be one less thing that needs to be policed so we can all spend more time ogling chicks ;)

schlubby 03-24-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carsondcarson (Post 2405547)
Hi,

A quick suggestion, I keep seeing the mods posting notes to make links non clickable (Especially Flickr). Could we add "HTTP:" and "WWW." to the banned word list? Like "sl*t", "b*tch", "wh*r*".
...

Interesting idea. Lately, I've been wondering if they can just make it so that the "Automatically parse links in text" checkbox isn't checked by default. I've unclicked that checkbox in this post, and it doesn't add links to "www" links, OR to "HTTP" or "HTTPS" links.
Examples:
www.google.com
http://www.google.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlbUBGIIBFg

I don't know how VBulletin works, but in other systems, it would be as simple as going to the correct template PHP file and changing this line:
<input name="parseurl" value="1" id="cb_parseurl" tabindex="1" checked="checked" type="checkbox">
to this
<input name="parseurl" value="1" id="cb_parseurl" tabindex="1" type="checkbox">

I agree, at this point it seems like it would be a lot easier to change something about the configuration than to have the mods have to change posts all the time. Sure, newbies might add links on purpose, but that might be a smaller problem than intermittently-contributing members forgetting, or people from non-English speaking countries not really understanding when they're told to stop.

Carsondcarson 07-05-2017 05:42 PM

Given what happened here (in the Photobooth Links thread), I'm bumping this suggestion. It would seem that forced disabling of clickable links in in all our best interest. Otherwise, I'm sure we we will continue to burn sources of photos.

crispus 07-05-2017 07:34 PM

So, to pander to the lowest common denominator that can't follow a simple instruction, direct links to other sites that don't care where their clicks come from, and internally within OCC, would be impossible, thus making anyone wanting to make those connections have to work harder? No thanks...

Carsondcarson 07-05-2017 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispus (Post 2465620)
So, to pander to the lowest common denominator that can't follow a simple instruction, direct links to other sites that don't care where their clicks come from, and internally within OCC, would be impossible, thus making anyone wanting to make those connections have to work harder? No thanks...

Hmmmm.... you got me on the internal links. But I'm not sold on the work harder issue, I mean, you just have to copy a small selection of text, open a new tab or window and paste. I frequently open new tabs or windows and paste in URL's, especially if I going from questionable sites (Ie Porn) to regular run of the mill sites.

Which makes me think, In Firefox, you can select almost anything that looks like a Url (it would seem HTTP:// or even WWW. are not required) does this also trigger a referral from the origination page / Domain? Anyone know? if it does then even auto removing the http and www is a moot point.

But the real issue is the "lowest common denominator that can't follow a simple instruction". Those that don't listen ruin it for the rest of us :(

nosti8 07-05-2017 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carsondcarson (Post 2465642)
Which makes me think, In Firefox, you can select almost anything that looks like a Url (it would seem HTTP:// or even WWW. are not required) does this also trigger a referral from the origination page / Domain? Anyone know? if it does then even auto removing the http and www is a moot point.

I'm curious about this, too. Also, in Chrome, when you highlight a URL and right click to copy, it gives you an option to go to that Web site. If I click that, does that count as a referral? I wouldn't think so, but I'd still like to know for sure.

As far as the suggestion itself, a couple things:

First, do we know if this would even work? Does blocking a term include blocking it when it's part of a string of characters? Well, let's test it: wh*r*://www.sl*t.b*tch.com

OK, works if I type it in. Now what if I add a link?

And therein lies the problem. Even when I create a link using a rule-compliant piece of text, it still censors it. This idea would effectively prevent any active links whatsoever on the forum. I use internal links too often to be OK with that.

Good suggestion, but I have to vote no on this.

Carsondcarson 07-05-2017 10:32 PM

It would actually appear not to break internal links as neither HTTP:// or WWW. are required for linking back to OCC. See Test Below:

forum.oneclickchicks.com/showthread.php?t=208254 or Test


Unfortunately, neither HTTP:// or WWW. are required for linking to other domains, so links could still be made with the URL Tags.

CNN

But, it would break most URL's in regular text and this does seem to the the majority of the problem.

nosti8 07-05-2017 10:59 PM

Good point. I didn't realize you could make a link without the http or www.

It's a very big change, though, and I still think it would likely have unforeseen effects. At this point, I still favor education and vigilant reporting. It's not hard to use the report button.

schlubby 07-06-2017 04:44 PM

Nobody seems to have noticed this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by schlubby (Post 2406008)
Interesting idea. Lately, I've been wondering if they can just make it so that the "Automatically parse links in text" checkbox isn't checked by default. I've unclicked that checkbox in this post, and it doesn't add links to "www" links, OR to "HTTP" or "HTTPS" links.
Examples:
www.google.com
http://www.google.com
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlbUBGIIBFg

I don't know how VBulletin works, but in other systems, it would be as simple as going to the correct template PHP file and changing this line:
<input name="parseurl" value="1" id="cb_parseurl" tabindex="1" checked="checked" type="checkbox">
to this
<input name="parseurl" value="1" id="cb_parseurl" tabindex="1" type="checkbox">

I agree, at this point it seems like it would be a lot easier to change something about the configuration than to have the mods have to change posts all the time. Sure, newbies might add links on purpose, but that might be a smaller problem than intermittently-contributing members forgetting, or people from non-English speaking countries not really understanding when they're told to stop.

Sorry if this comes off as technical, but it's not really that technical, and it works. The only real drawback is that it would mean you have to click the "Automatically parse links in text" checkbox to ON (or use the URL tags) if you want to make internal links. We can complain and wish all we want about people not being stubborn or stupid or new or overwhelmed or non-English-speaking, but this has been a problem, and a soft "rule", for years. And I bet the great majority of even heavy contributors outside the Free Sites forum STILL don't get this. I don't think it's ever going to change well enough through simple "education".

EDIT: sigh, ignore the fact that there are links in my quoted text. I didn't uncheck the box in this post. They aren't there in the original.

schlubby 01-03-2023 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schlubby (Post 2406008)
Interesting idea. Lately, I've been wondering if they can just make it so that the "Automatically parse links in text" checkbox isn't checked by default. I've unclicked that checkbox in this post, and it doesn't add links to "www" links, OR to "HTTP" or "HTTPS" links.
Examples:
www.google.com
http://www.google.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlbUBGIIBFg

I don't know how VBulletin works, but in other systems, it would be as simple as going to the correct template PHP file and changing this line:
<input name="parseurl" value="1" id="cb_parseurl" tabindex="1" checked="checked" type="checkbox">
to this
<input name="parseurl" value="1" id="cb_parseurl" tabindex="1" type="checkbox">

I agree, at this point it seems like it would be a lot easier to change something about the configuration than to have the mods have to change posts all the time. Sure, newbies might add links on purpose, but that might be a smaller problem than intermittently-contributing members forgetting, or people from non-English speaking countries not really understanding when they're told to stop.

Since we're still having the hot links problem and maybe there's some chance Admin will show up and see this sometime, I thought I'd re-up this: I really think it might be a one-line fix to a template somewhere, making the "Automatically parse links in text" checkbox be turned off by default. See above. So much annoyance for the mods as well as all the posters could be solved so easily. I think. It's so simple it's certainly worth a try!

I think I sent Admin a PM about this years ago but I might have it mixed up with the PM quota problem and I'm not completely sure because I keep having to delete my PMs. :D

I appreciate you all though! I know it's not easy and there's no pay for almost anyone involved. :cool:


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